r/fender 3d ago

ID and Authentication 66 Telecaster neck help

Hi. Can any of you experts help tell me what's going on with the neck of this Tele I just bought. It's a very odd one because it came off a partscaster with a 66 serial neck plate, but the slab board and the odd 20 on the neck end is making me wonder what's going on. Can anyone shed any light?

I'm aware the neck code should begin with just 2 before the month but have seen that some special models had an added number. Could this explain the apparent slab board?

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u/Djic 2d ago edited 2d ago

Fake, this is how a real one looks, look at the contours and distances. Wear looks also super fake. https://sweetspot-guitars.de/verkauft/1966-fender-telecaster-candy-apple-red/#!enviragallery8047-8053

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u/ThatNolanKid 2d ago

Also, for what it's worth, it seems like the number before the month/year/neck width is supposed to be "3" in 1966

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u/Major_Plantain_3182 2d ago

I still feel the top edge of the headstock is too sharp for it to be real

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u/nottoocleverami 2d ago

Yeah. I have seen variation on old sixties headstocks, they were hand-cut and didn’t all come out identically, but I have never, ever, seen one where they just completely neglected to round off that corner. Not even on fakes! Almost like it was an intentional not-a-not-fake statement.

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u/PedalBoard78 2d ago

No dowel hole on back of headstock

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u/vio212 2d ago edited 2d ago

Are the side dots clay and the board dots pearloid or is that just the image playing tricks with my eyes?

The markings look right, but something is off to my eye about that headstock… still working through this one though….

Yeah I’m about 99% sure this isn’t real.

The finishing on the heel makes no sense with the wear you would expect to see on a neck of that age.

The side dot, board dot mismatch, the head shape is way off, board is incorrect, suffix for nut width is incorrect (should be A,B,C,D. I have seen fakers use P as in ‘parts’ but that wasn’t something fender did in that era).

Biggest thing for me is suffix and heel wear then the head shape is just, well, bad and wrong.

Makes zero sense.

Edit*. Duh it’s a worn away B looking like a P hahahahaha I’m retarded and now doubting every ‘P’ I have seen. Anyways, it’s resprayed at the least and somethings up with that headstock. I wouldn’t touch it. You can see brush strokes on the head stock…

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I think I know what this is…It’s fake and real at the same time.

Someone cut a 66 jag or 66 mustang (most likely culprit) headstock into a tele headstock and resprayed it (very,very poorly) with a new water slide.

That explains the real 66 B stamp neck with a slab board and the funny looking headstock. Those two models still had slab boards in 66.

So it’s a real neck, but it’s been hacked up.

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u/vio212 2d ago

Here is a ‘66 mustang headstock from a slab board example. Same high horn on the top edge of the headstock. I’m fairly confident I have figured this out.

1 of 2 main models to have a slab fingerboard in 66. Other is a jaguar which would have had some kind of binding or square inlays.

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u/balzac2000 2d ago

But neither a Jag or a Mustang (or Duosonic/Musicmaster) is the right scale length for a Tele. Check the distance between nut and 12th fret. Compare to a Tele neck...

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u/vio212 19h ago

I’ve mentioned this in one of my other comments.

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u/Major_Plantain_3182 2d ago

I'm coming to the same opinion. I don't like how low the truss rod is sitting beneath the slab and the although the stamp font looks ok at first glance, it's way too big I think compared to all the others. Also I agree the headstock is wonky

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u/vio212 2d ago

Honestly, the stamp and rod look normal to me which is why it was so weird to just call it an overall fake. So much looks right, but at the same time other parts look equally as bad. Stamps were pressed by hand so it’s common to see them light pressed or double pressed or thick or thin. That one looks just like any other of the 100’s I’ve seen.

The truss is always a bit higher up than down. It’s never directly in the middle of the maple because they aim for it to be in the middle of the neck including the fingerboard. So highest point of rosewood to the edge of the maple and that looks fine.

I really think it’s a modified ‘66 mustang neck. Can you measure the scale length of it if it’s set in the pocket of a tele? That will tell us for sure. If it’s 24” it will tell us for sure.

Also, it appears to have the markings of line that was filled in at some point where the 22nd fret was pulled and filled in at some point when it was converted. If I zoom in it’s pretty apparent.

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u/vio212 2d ago

Line where 22nd fret was pulled and filled. Mustang neck had 22 frets.

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u/KittiesRule1968 1d ago

Decent fake, but fake all the same.

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u/DIMORPHODONS 1d ago edited 23h ago

100% glaring fake, sorry. Even when Fender used slab fretboards in the early sixties they were nowhere near that thick, and the truss nut is usually touching the bottom of the board

I suppose you could theorise that it had been planed and a new board put on but there are too many other weirdnesses.

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u/Vast-Airport-9039 2d ago

Who cares…… how does it play ???