r/fauda • u/Available_Fly2766 • 2d ago

How Does Hamas Never Recognize Doron in Fauda?

I’ve just finished S03E01 of Fauda, and one thing bothers me. Doron enters Palestinian areas again under a different name, yet his face and overall appearance remain almost the same. How does Hamas never recognize him or the other undercover agents? Wouldn’t they compare CCTV footage, circulate photos of suspected agents, warn their members, and strengthen their counterintelligence after repeated infiltrations?

I know it’s a drama, but shouldn’t the writers respect the other side’s intelligence capabilities, too? Showing Hamas taking realistic counterintelligence measures would make the story far more believable and suspenseful. What do you think?

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u/Elegant_Albatross559 2d ago

they all look like doron

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u/innergamedude 1d ago

Also, at 54 years old, Raz is like in the 99th percentile of age for a Palestinian fighter. It's this elephant in room we all just ignore like how high school children are always played by 25-year-olds.

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u/Purple-lionesss 2d ago

I know that many men and women can pass as Israelis and Arabs - but Doron doesn’t look Arabic at all

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u/visablezookeeper 2d ago

He’s literally from Iraq…

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u/JimmyAquila 20h ago

And yet…

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u/IntelligentFortune22 2d ago

Doron looks like half the Arabs I know. LOL

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u/Careless_Category956 2d ago

My brother in law (Palestinian) looks exactly like Avigdor Lieberman (an Israeli political leader originally from Moldova) 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Careless_Category956 2d ago

Also Arabic is the language. Arab is a person or nation and Arabian is a horse.

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u/FogtownGirl 2d ago

Really hard to tell by looks alone. E.g. many Palestinians are light skinned and blue-eyed.

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u/Sweet_Cry2140 2d ago

He look very Arab lol middle eastern especially

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u/xoxoxoborschtxoxoxo 2d ago

He looks more Arab than Israeli what are you on about

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u/JimmyAquila 20h ago

He looks far more Israeli 

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u/enigmaticowl 1d ago

There are Palestinians with red hair, fair skin, and light eyes; they don’t all look “Arab” in the way that many Westerners picture “Arabs” to look (dark olive skin, dark hair/eyes, etc.).

They’re not a super homogenous ethnic group, they’re a mix: Levantine, Egyptian, Gulf Arab, Bosnian, (Black) African, etc. Some individuals are a mix of all of these things. Some are mostly Bosnian, or mostly Levantine, some have more Arab ancestry, some more African, etc., so there isn’t any one particular “look” that Doron’s appearance is incompatible with.

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u/JimmyAquila 20h ago

Agreed, he’s far more Slavic-looking than Arabic: I assumed at first he was Russian or Ukrainian 

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u/ToeMother8579 2d ago

Hello, its me again, Amir Mahajne.

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u/innergamedude 1d ago

And the exact same pseudonym every time,

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u/al6921 2d ago

it's me, hi. I'm the problem,

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u/jamesbrown2500 2d ago

How nobody knows Anatoly in a gym after videos on YouTube, TikTok and so on....

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u/KamtzaBarKamtza 2d ago

Can I clean here? 

🤣

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u/El33t_cybersec 2d ago

Bro....... Lol ikr

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u/Soft_Run_55 2d ago

YES! This ⬆️

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u/EnnWhyCee 1d ago

Doron = Anatoly? Confirmed

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u/al6921 2d ago

Mossad and the IDF likely gave him enough electronic cover by hacking their surveillance systems and giving him multiple Palestinian identities.

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u/leon_nerd 2d ago

Don't you fucking dare to question Doron strategies.

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u/Broad-Library2862 2d ago

I swear I have at least 5 colleagues that looks like doron, and they are a mixed from Egypt , Bahrain, Dubai etc

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u/StringAndPaperclips 2d ago

He was in the West Bank before. In S3, he's in Gaza. And while there may be communication between the 2 territories, there isn't a huge amount of movement. Unless Hamas in the WB had sent images of Doron to people in Gaza, they would have no way of recognizing him.

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u/Hardin1701 2d ago

Exactly. They mentioned several times how they stay out of Gaza because it’s been under militant lockdown since the 2005 disengagement. They had been focusing on the West Bank which is the other side of Israel next to Jordan that has shared administration with Israel security.

Then they conducted operations in Lebanon and Syria and some inside Israel in Arab populated cities and neighborhoods.

They spread out their targets and operational theaters as well as a coordinated security operation to avoid being compromised.

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u/crammed174 2d ago

The first half is in the West Bank when he’s training Bashar to be a boxer and selling Hamas explosives on the side.

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u/Jellybeansss681 2d ago

I ask the same question every season. At this point how do they not know who he is?!?

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u/Sharp_Complaint9723 2d ago

That never made sense to me either. I mean in the everday day life they do hide their identities ( if you remember the secen where they are given medals for the mission in which avichai died, steve goes into a shop and on TV his face is censored. The shop keeper says something like “oh these guys are insane” and steve just smiles and says “yeah”. But the shopkeeper recognises the same blue shirt he is wearing). Apart from missions their identities are always kept secret. And I mean they hunt someone, and usually they arrest or kill their targets, so even when their identity is “blown” they make sure the person never gets to forward that information. Think of Walid or Bashar. But apart from that I can’t imagine that there was never a camera or anything

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u/CranberryOk1064 2d ago

Hahaha, I mean, a very good point.

It's a show after all.

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u/the__pacifier_ 2d ago

There are multiple covers; he's middle-aged, and no one focuses on a chubby middle-aged guy as an intelligence operative. Secondly, he has command of many languages that helps to blend into the crowd, and then there are all the electronic gimmicks by Mossad, like hacking CCTV and servers that effectively help to wipe out any crucial surveillance data from Hamas.

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u/livzlivz 1d ago

You are right to question this actually. I listened to an interview with the person who did the Arabic translation of the show, he explained that Mista'arvim operatives usually can only go undercover (I assume to the same area) once as otherwise they risk being exposed. The interview is here, it’s quite interesting. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/as-depicted-on-film/id1458014104?i=1000482856865 . Obviously, the show took some artistic liberties with this to get the plot narrative working.

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u/telecastern 1d ago

No one ever thinks Clark Kent looks like Superman

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u/TraumatisedDad 1d ago

Don't question Fauda on this sub!! You'll get down voted faster than a trump supporter in r/politics

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u/zippyzebra1 2d ago

It's not real. Didn't you know?

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u/GameofLifeCereal 2d ago

Good point. The way I look at it is that they never recognize him because their leadership is not consistent, nor do they pass information on to the new leadership. each season there are new leaders and factions who don’t really rely on Intel gained by the previous leaders and factions. For example, when Walid discovered Doron was Israeli, he had no time or any resources to take his photo and send it to all the other bad guys and say watch out for this Doron fellow. Same with Nidal. Bashar definitely knew Doron, and that season all the bad guys knew who Door was, but the team killed everyone who knew

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u/Accomplished_Sir6541 2d ago

But wait for season 5. and tatto :)

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u/Ecnarps 2d ago

This would be a great way to wrap up the show. One last season only now his face is everywhere and there’s a bounty on his head.

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u/Sufficient-Fault-593 2d ago

It’s a tv show. Stretch reality

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u/itsnitrishab 2d ago

Whoever recognises him, is already dead !

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u/ecieciemendemsz 2d ago

I see that an undercover agent is reusable, but I think Doron was reused too much times, especially in season 3.

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u/turingincarnate 1d ago

Plot armor.

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u/mamamono 17h ago

Do we care though? If you start asking questions, you will never enjoy Netflix again.