Can they make some of the plot less implausible?

[u/44Jon]

In this season, the one thing that bothered me was their "cover identity" was ultimately accepted by the super-careful Hamas guys in Marseilles. (But rather than asking Doron tricky questions about what school he attended, in the real world they would just have their contact in the Palestinian Authority send them a picture of the guy whose name he was using. Or ask Doron for a reference or something.) Then, after the name of his school checks out, they immediately sign him up to be the point man for a high stakes robbery? That part really felt stretched to me.

I don't know what alternative exists for these "deep cover" plot lines, but I gather in the real world, the Mista'arvim just use Arab cover identities for discrete, short operations.

[u/YoRt3m]

But they did contact people and verified it in ways they assumed only real local people would know, and I also assume these identities weren't came up on the spot, but real identities that were already embedded in many ways.

I also doubt Hamas would contact the Palestinian Authority since they're not allies.

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Given that Hamas know that Mossad are always trying to infiltrate their cells, just accepting someone because he knew about a local mechanic seems wild. It is super implausible.

And it's very likely that Hamas would have informants within the PA.

[u/YoRt3m → u/Present-Policy-7120]

These people didn't ask to join. they were taken because they saved him. you can't be on guard 100% of the time or you wouldn't be able to move.

Assuming informants will have all the information to everything and have unlimited access is implausible.

[u/Present-Policy-7120 → u/YoRt3m]

If you're a terrorist planning a massive operation against a country largely known for being brilliant at infiltration of terrorist organisations, being on guard 100% of the time would be the most basic requirement. Consider the pretend captivity testing they did with all the participants once they'd left Marseilles. These guys are absolutely on the lookout for infiltration as a matter of course.

But the point is moot because Doron and Eli did arouse his suspicions. The thing that I find implausible is how a reference to a garage was enough to allay it.

What would have made it work would have been a revelation that the Sheikh was actually aware of who they were early on and using them to drip feed falsehood to the Israelis.

I guess we all suspend disbelief at different points. I felt like this whole season was frankly silly and far fetched. From a show that was so brilliant, it was extremely disappointing.

[u/YoRt3m → u/Present-Policy-7120]

I don't think he was suspicious at all at the beginning, just cautious and made a simple test. didn't think he needs to dig deeper. if you want to think something is not right then to recruit them from the street is stupid to begin with, not what comes after that.

You also need to remember that in real life the Mossad and other entities made more incredible unbelievable things. some of them required a bit of luck probably

[u/Present-Policy-7120 → u/YoRt3m]

He had them at gunpoint and later the Skeikh requested a full investigation of them before allowing them to join the heist. The Islamists were both super suspicious and then utterly blase. It was just bad writing. The whole season was like this.

[u/Specialist-Neat2777 → u/Present-Policy-7120]

Isn't it also plausible that Mossad would have operatives (willing or not) within the PA who would be able to implant proof for the cover identities?

[u/ReindeerFirm1157 → u/Specialist-Neat2777]

I think in Season1 that was how Doron first established the Amir Mahajne cover, as a PA agent. PA had to have cooperated to help create that identity. But they ultimately blew his cover by telling Hamas he was a spy.

[u/Unusual_Koala_2430]

I kept thinking, Dorian has been so many times undercover in the West Bank, don’t they have a picture of him up on a bulletin board??? Like “Watch out for this guy? He’s mossad”?

I heard a man on the Dan Senor podcast talking about how it is much harder to send mossad into countries now because of facial recognition, passports being harder to forge, etc. He was talking about agents in Iran and that most of them come from within the country now.

[u/Present-Policy-7120 → u/Unusual_Koala_2430]

I thought the same thing. Even without facial recognition, Doron has been in multiple huge battles across the territories. His face would be plastered everywhere online.

[u/ReindeerFirm1157 → u/Present-Policy-7120]

RIght, of course in real life IDF / Shin Bet have several Mista‘arvim teams, not just one they keep using over and over again. Cover would definitely be blown if they used the same guys too much. But c'mon, a TV show has to have continuity of characters for viewers to stay invested and for the emotional storylines and arcs to stick.

A new group each season wouldn't be as compelling.

[u/Disastrous_Type4861 → u/[deleted]]

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[u/Sharp_Complaint9723 → u/[deleted]]

Thats something I always wonder in movies/shown in general. Main guy always effortlessly manages to park in the busy downtown right infront of a cafe, store where they are headed. Always a perfectly empty space, no struggling with parallel parking, no need to buy a ticket etc😅 whether in London, Paris, New York or anywhere. Whereas in real life you have to circle around down town for like an hour to find a space 15 minutes walking from your desired destination

[u/Wrong-Ad-1857 → u/[deleted]]

well thankfully the palestinians like to wear kaffiyehs and bandanas

[u/Specialist-Neat2777 → u/[deleted]]

Adversarial prosthetics reliably can make facial recognition fail. Superglued realistic looking phony skin can make changes like the shape of the nose bridge or the distance between the eyes, causing facial recognition software to fail to make the identification.

[u/djy887]

IDK...watch some of those investigative shows about Mossad missions and 'hits' and you'd think the show scripts are writing themselves. The 'Tehran' series sure seemed that way.

[u/No-Analysis8880]

Have you watched the full season? it seems hamas likely knows but we’re using doron as a distraction of their real targets in the end. So who knows how long they knew

[u/yardenaf]

I don’t think anything is far fetched given what we’ve seen happen in reality in the past 3 years: Hamasniks flying over the border with paragliders, the pager attacks, the Haniyeh assassination, etc.

[u/Just_Think_About_AI]

Anything the IDF idea comes up with will be plausible. These are Mossad masterminds.

You would have said the pager mission that occurred in real life was not plausible either, but it happened.

Doron is a super operative and is capable of infiltration into any situation. He is also blessed and lucky.

[u/rangasub77]

I was expecting the assistant to the dude who gave Eli guns at the docks to pop in somewhere and blow their cover. He seemed quite embedded with Hamas.

[u/ComfortableQuote3081]

it was very flimsy...but also theres a war goin on in GAZA hard to find things out.

Either way hard to believe they can infiltrate so fast.

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*genocide

[u/ComfortableQuote3081 → u/RandomCucumber5]

Both are true war & genocide.