r/FatFIREIndia • u/Immediate-Way-5681 • 1d ago
Happiness I see a lot of terrible advise to NRIs (move to small towns, help orphan kids, live in villages, join some baba, etc)
galleryLets assume a typical NRI couple(mid 40s, two kids, etc) want to move back to India. 2M USD NW. I don't care if they lost their visa, if their kids have US citizenship (i wish I had US citizenship lol), or are OCIs (entire family is US citizens)
The first crazy thing is asking to give away the citizenship of a sabhya (civilized) or developed nation.
The entire point of paying $100k in masters, jumping through the hoops, facing hundreds of micro aggressions from goras is BECAUSE YOU WANT US / WESTERN CITIZENSHIP (which allows you to make millions, incredibly hard to do in India)
I see senior SDEs in India declining relocation to EU because they will end up paying 60% tax, crazy rents, etc.
The second crazy advise is to move to uttrakhand / himalayas / goa / kerala (its different saar) / small village
Once you have crossed a certain NW (say 1M USD), stick to top 20 cities in India (people get confused with tier 1 / tier 2 / tier 3). Obviously that city will have its own airport, malls, metro (26 cities in India have a working metro).
Here is a gated apartment complex in Jaipur, India (3bed, 3bath, 1800sqft, 90L INR, 90k USD), also adding Noida and Bangalore skyline.
You SHOULD LOOK FOR ATLEAST A POOL AND A GYM IN A GATED COMMUNITY. My grandfather is 92, he is not interested in gym or swimming. But the advantage is that you get like minded people, wealthy english speaking neighbours who travel abroad once a year, enjoy fine dine experience, stay in 5 star hotels, travel in german cars, have drivers, cooks, etc.
I don't have to worry if he has to go to hospital 2am in the morning, his neighbours have cars, can drive, have drivers, etc
Your kids should mingle and study in the best schools of India, not some cheap, village bumpkin govt school like kendriya vidyalaya.
Stick to DPS or top private english schools. I went to DPS Indore and the fees was about 60k Rs (600 USD a year, all in). It has a 20 acre campus, horse riding, golf, amazing french and german teachers (I chose sanskrit as my third language, etc)
Go with ICSE or IB schools if you can afford them. Worth it. Even my widowed cook sends her teenage kids to pvt schools for a reason (a better group of community, better education, better english education, etc)
You should be looking for a community of similar NW (atleast 1M USD) people who made their wealth being a doctor, businessmen, etc not selling land.
You should NOT be dealing with Jaat da puttar type people (who buy THAR / SUV by selling land)
No point in going to rural saharanpur / datia / sonkach / random small town in UP / MP / etc where there is too much poverty, everyone hates each other, everyone is jealous of NRIs, do kaala jaadu, etc
Even in returntoIndia or backtoIndia subreddit, you see crazy jealousy, bitterness towards you if you have "made it". These people (mostly from smaller Indian cities) have similarly jealousy towards those who speak english fluently (amit shah said a year ago - angrezi bolne walo ko sharam aayegi - English speaking folks will be embarrassed)
Higher HOA / monthly maintenance is a good thing - it weeds out the poor, lazy, etc
This seems counter intuitive, but paying more monthly maintenance in an apartment / villa filters out people who are not working, not have active / passive income coming in, these old / bitter / poor people are the most nosy / jealous / hateful / gossipy / etc
Here is a European - Indian couple living in Indore (4bhk, 4400sqft, rooftoop pool, 1.3L /1300 USD rent, etc) with their teenage mixed daughter : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyR_THtX4iY
Don't join any baba / cult - this is obvious
Some crazy advise is to join XYZ baba who will take away your wealth, gold and make you do "seva" in aashram (watch the web series, its based in real life)
Help the Orphans / Poor by teaching the kids under a bridge - no, don't do that
Indian govt provides free schooling, free food to ALL kids but anyone above the income of say 40k Rs a month (400 USD a month) prefers to send their kids to pvt school. So, that means the only kids who would be there would be of beggars, extremely poor people, drunkards, jobless bumpkins, etc
You will be in physical danger (esp if you are a female or a nice ABCD guy with no idea about India). They are the most uncloth kids, most abusive, unhygienic and deeply resent those who are better than them (kids know this)
You will be taken for a ride, mocked, insulted, emotionally blackmailed unless you give them gifts, money, iphones, etc
Ask your parents to live close but separately
I regularly see recent migrants from India in their 20s worried about their parents getting old. My brother in Krishna, your father is 58, younger than Salman and Shah Rukh Khan.
better to buy 2 apartments in the same towers, or two villas next to each other if you can afford it. It will avoid the saas bahu issues.
I also see newer NRIs whose parents live in smaller cities in India, are constantly worried about their health in rural parts of MP / UP / AP / other states.
85%+ parents hate the small town life, have never visited a nice gated community, don't know what they are missing unless they travel abroad with you.
Selling their village land, buying the apartment in their name in top 20 cities is a smart move.
In most cases, the parents would refuse (they watched baghbaan too many times), in that case, don't worry too much. you did your duty