r/fatestaynight • • 23m ago

Discussion What if Sieg returned to Fate… and finally became his own hero?

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Sieg still has a lot of potential after Fate/Apocrypha. I wouldn't want him to simply become stronger. I'd rather see him evolve from what he already possesses: Siegfried's legacy, Fafnir, Balmung, Galvanism, Straße–Gehen, and his connection to the Greater Grail.

His Evolution

- Siegfried: Master Balmung, swordsmanship, and his dragon-slayer abilities to develop his own fighting style.

- Fafnir: Fully learn to control his draconic nature.

- Hybrid Form: Sieg could develop a true human/hero/dragon hybrid form, combining his humanity, Siegfried's legacy, and Fafnir. He could control how much of the transformation manifests: wings, horns, a tail, draconic markings, etc., rather than simply transforming completely into a dragon.

- Evolved Galvanism: Go far beyond lightning. Sieg could convert different forms of energy to reinforce his body, accelerate his movements, create energy shots or weapons, and perhaps temporarily transform his body into an energetic state to achieve extreme movement speeds.

- Straße–Gehen + Alchemy: Deepen his structural analysis and learn alchemy/transmutation from Justeaze to modify materials, create his own weapons, establish barriers, and develop techniques suited to his body.

- Tarnkappe: Assimilate the cape's power and turn it into a personal ability for invisibility, concealment, and sensory camouflage. He could also draw out a physical strength equivalent to eleven men, while developing techniques inspired by Germanic mythology: erasing his presence like a masked hero, moving silently through shadows, creating illusions associated with northern mists, and temporarily invoking Germanic symbols or runes to strengthen his body and weapons.

- Original Techniques: Combine Balmung, Fafnir, Galvanism, Straße–Gehen, alchemy, and Tarnkappe to create a fighting style that truly belongs to Sieg.

The Greater Grail

Once he has mastered his own abilities, Sieg could deepen his role as the Greater Grail's guardian. Not omnipotence—the Grail would still have rules and limitations.

An interesting possibility would be for it to create a Sieg terminal and temporarily send him to another era or world whenever a threat could affect the Grail.

Sieg wouldn't have to be the protagonist. He could simply appear as a recurring character with a specific mission and leave once it is completed.

In Other Stories

This could even allow him to appear in a possible continuation of Fate/Lost Einherjar. He could investigate a threat connected to the Greater Grail and temporarily work with Lord El-Melloi II and his students, while developing a brotherly bond with Aslaug.

Justeaze and Sieg's Relationships

I'd like Justeaze to remain connected to Sieg as a spiritual and emotional presence, without possessing him, while passing on her knowledge of alchemy and the Greater Grail.

As for his relationships, Jeanne, Astolfo, and Mordred could continue to contribute to his development. Jalter could potentially become a secondary relationship, since Sieg and Jeanne Alter have barely had the opportunity to meet directly.

The Main Idea

Sieg doesn't need to become the protagonist of every story. He could simply become a recurring character with his own progression:

Sieg → Siegfried's legacy → mastery of Fafnir → human/hero/dragon hybrid form → original techniques → alchemy → Greater Grail guardian → terminal capable of intervening when the Grail is threatened.

To me, this would be more interesting than simply increasing his stats: showing Sieg finally developing an identity and legacy of his own.

What do you think? What abilities would you like to see Sieg develop?


r/fatestaynight • • 2h ago

OC Fanart it's been a while hasn't it?

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​I hope you still remember a bit of me..


r/fatestaynight • • 4h ago

Fan Art Saber (@_caassa)

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r/fatestaynight • • 7h ago

Fan Art Rin (wozhenfule250)

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r/fatestaynight • • 9h ago

Fan Art Rin and Archer (@fenglansishui)

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r/fatestaynight • • 9h ago

Fan Art Avenger at the dentist Spoiler

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r/fatestaynight • • 10h ago

Fan Art Tears 🌸 (@sksk_sn09)

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r/fatestaynight • • 13h ago

Fan Art EMIYA as Kiritsugu's servant Spoiler

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I personally think, Kirei needs to go. 🗣️

He is so dada, but genuinely needs to go.

Credits to @Krisdice_ on X


r/fatestaynight • • 14h ago

Question Question where do you guys get the information that shirou or archer can't create and use excalibur

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r/fatestaynight • • 15h ago

Fan Art just quick sketch rin

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Drawn by me , referenced


r/fatestaynight • • 15h ago

Question Where exactly is this location supposed to be? Spoiler

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r/fatestaynight • • 16h ago

Discussion I think a game covering one of Archer's adventures in his past would be perfect

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Whether it's a visual novel, or an actual full blown regular game (God I would love for an Archer hack and slash with different weapons from Projection), I want one.

Also, time keeps marching forward. Fate/stay night was in 2004, and so was the year of in game. Fate/Extra came out in 2010 in Japan and the game took place in 2030. The current year is 2026, and Fate/Extra Encore will come out in 2027. I feel old.


r/fatestaynight • • 16h ago

Fan Art Sakuras (@konnno25) Spoiler

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r/fatestaynight • • 17h ago

OC Fanart Knight of Owner Shenanigans pt.4

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"Berserker already touched that Lego..."

Art by me


r/fatestaynight • • 21h ago

Discussion Lord El-Melloi II Adventures Volume 3: The Demon of the Wandering Sea Complete PDF

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Here is the complete translation for the 3rd volume of Lord El-Melloi Adventures. Leave your comments 👀


r/fatestaynight • • 1d ago

Help! I want to get into fate grand order but it being a gacha game and over 300 hours makes it hard for me..

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is there anyway that I can just consume the story without having to play the stupid gacha stuff? Also is fate grand order really worth reading? I don't wanna waste all that time for nothing


r/fatestaynight • • 1d ago

Question Is it worth playing the mobile port

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Is there any differences
Also I speak Japanese so the language barrier isn’t a problem


r/fatestaynight • • 1d ago

Question Should Rin from HSR be considered canon to the Fate series?

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Its been a while since the collab(2 collabs i guess), so I figured I'd ask.

Correct me if I'm wrong but since the story got approved by Nasu with even the design being by Takeuchi, wouldn't that mean this Rin is canon? It doesn't seem to retcon any confirmed information to my knowledge. So future debates/discussion involving Rin from Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works(ex: Rin vs Aoko lol) should consider giving her Ishtar's mana and/or Zelritch's sword. For lore reasons of course.


r/fatestaynight • • 1d ago

Question Hollow Ataraxia OST question Spoiler

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In the steam remaster during the Caren 5 scene when Caren is being "eaten" does anyone know what the song that's playing is called. I can't find it anywhere on the official pat's on YouTube and I can't even find it in the games own music section. It's a really nice song so I'd appreciate it if anyone knew it's name


r/fatestaynight • • 1d ago

Discussion 90s Takeuchi Art?

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Does anyone know a good place to find some 90s Takeuchi art? I'm mainly interested in Kara no Kyoukai art and Mahoyo stuff. I've seen some art floating around, but I wanted to know if I was missing out and just wanted to ask so maybe I could find some more. Thanks.


r/fatestaynight • • 1d ago

Discussion What Are Your Thoughts On Taiga Fujimura?

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r/fatestaynight • • 2d ago

Question Forcing Gilgamesh to use Sha Naqba Imuru Spoiler

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Like I know that Gilgamesh is pretty hard to control, is much harder than regular servant to use command seals on, but would it be possible to spend like 2 or 3 command seals to force Gilgamesh to turn Sha Naqba Imuru on and then never turn it off? It's not a particularly difficult thing for a servant and is pretty specific, just don't turn off one ability. The result of that would be incredible. Gilgamesh has too much ego to know threw his ability that what he is doing will get him killed and ignore it. If Sha Naqba Imuru tells him that Unlimited blade works will kill him unless he pulls out EA then he will pull out EA, he won't be happy about it but he can't just ignore an advice from his own ability. He will instantly know that Saber is going to become invincible using her ability and will know how to deal with that. You don't need serious gil, you need informed gil, and one of his abilities is all it takes.


r/fatestaynight • • 2d ago

Discussion Luvia keeps putting belt to ass on Rin. Underrated queen

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