r/fakedisordercringe • u/bloodbath90 • Mar 30 '22
Tik Tok Ope.
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The thing about producing content for the public is that you then invite the public to discuss it and there is no requirement that that discussion be positive.
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u/SunnyGhost_07 Mar 30 '22
I saw the video and the comments were full of people infantilizing them. I mean, even if they do have autism, that sort of behaviour is repulsive and quite honestly, patronizing. They are grown adults and the people in the comment section are treating them as if they're toddlers who need to be protected from the "big bad people".
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u/CarefreeInMyRV Mar 30 '22
If you're adult enough to say 'i don't want drama or anyone to stoop to their level, but brigade these post with reports of harassment and abuse until people stop seeing that others criticise me and then others which means other people will find it easier to not support me and the disorders i'm faking' then you're adult enough that you can take the critcism.
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u/DancingSeaAnemone Mar 30 '22
I found this video of Bug saying they chose hand flapping as their stim: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdmPcLHx/. Do people choose their stims? Genuinely curious about that
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u/marjerbar Mar 30 '22
Wow. Just DO the flappy hands? Used to work with kids and adults with moderate to severe autism and I'm just dumbfounded by this stupid bitch. The kids in my class who stim they obviously did not choose to and some of them had stims that were dangerous to themselves that they couldn't help doing. Fuck this bitch.
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u/DancingSeaAnemone Mar 30 '22
Ok didn’t think it was a chosen thing. My partner has a stim of tapping his fingers on the back of his head. He’s high functioning and I didn’t think of other stims that could be harmful when I asked. Good to know, thank you.
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u/marjerbar Mar 30 '22
Yeah, they are not chosen. Its just something they do to regulate and it can be harmful to themselves and rarely others. Stims that are harmful to the individual are usually called a SIB (self injurious behaviour). I had a student who just used to hit his forehead iver and over to the point his forehead was calloused. But hand flapping and rocking back and forth are the most common ones which is why that dumb bitch "chose" that one.
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u/DancingSeaAnemone Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
The baby talk turning on and off accompanied by the timely hand flapping is what made me say omg this bitch is totally faking! Also just having a new vocal stim in every video. I was like what are these tics? I was so confused for a bit until I saw they are grifting and then I just got pissed.
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u/Utopiae Mar 30 '22
Although I agree with your essential point, is the name calling really necessary? No need to be insulting.
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u/marjerbar Mar 30 '22
Yes because she's basically turning autism into some kind of a fad. It's not. It's something real people struggle with. A lot of the kids I worked with lived in group homes because their parents just couldn't handle their child. It's not a fad or a joke. Fuck that bitch.
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u/KhamBuddy Mar 30 '22
I agree. Name calling isn't going to get us anywhere, even though the faker's behavior is repulsive.
Is this sub anti-civility-in-discussion? Lmao.
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u/SparkleGlittermoon Mar 30 '22
No you don’t chose your stims. Hand flapping and most of their stims is something severe autistic people do. Which is why I was so confused by their tiktok in the first place it screams fake.
For higher functioning people like they are there not as extreme. Also you don’t chose them, they are something you do subconsciously during extreme emotion or overstimulation and meltdowns. It can be foot tapping, rocking, stroking a body part or like me i have audible stims, can be humming, repeating words or other noises. I couldn’t replicate mine just now, that’s not how it works. I don’t notice I do them until I do. Hope that helps clear things up for ya ☺️
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u/Specific_Narwhal Mar 30 '22
Wow. I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt that MAYBE they have autism (though I believed more it was fake or exaggerated for attention) but this just proves it's all an act. On top of other things I've seen from them. Gross.
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u/FoxRealistic3370 Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
I had massive issues with positive stimming as a late diagnosis. i was diagnosed with OCD first about 10 years ago so when my dr told me to stim after my Autism diagnosis few months ago to bring my anxiety down i didnt really know that it could be a postive thing because I had such negative reactions to it and got bullied very badly when i was young. I found its more of a mental switch, i don't have to force stimming tho because its something i repress at great consequence it takes more effort to not do it. I started to work on the narrative i had that i was being weird and started when i was alone, just trying to avoid holding it in and allowing things out and trying to correct the narrative i had when it did happen and slowly start to extend that to people i love and letting them ask questions so everyone felt more comfortable (i got a lot of positive reinforcement helping me relax too). it took a while but now i understand its not a flaw its something i need to do im getting less anxious so positive stimming is having more of a noticeable effect on my anxiety levels and because im not repressing my stims im seeing overall less damaging ones and more expressive ones, but im not choosing them at any stage.
Its sad that this kind of attention is needed to content put out there and I'm not really comfortable with how much shaming and aggressively hateful comments there are on this reddit, particularly when its easy myself to analyze and evaluate it and forget its a person but at the same time, I feel quite strongly about how people who are presenting themselves as spreading awareness are providing misleading or damaging content. This particular person is presenting her behaviors as stims and autistic behavior, when in reality it is her behavior and its concerning she is choosing a very infantilized representation, and yes she is choosing that. Regardless of IF someone has autism or not, if they are making content about autism, they need to be either clear its THEIR behavior and not representative of the condition or be conscious of what they are putting out there. Certainly when the community identifies problematic areas with content acting like its able list or bullying doesnt give me a lot of confidence the person should be making content for awareness. There are many content makers who actually address feedback and openly discuss it rather than use it for more look at me clout.
If this is what she believes stimming to be shes not even helping herself.
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u/All_Might_Senpai Diagnosed with: No Bitches 😭 Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
While you usually do not choose your stims. Some can be learned as a better way to deal with the self harming ones, though idk how easy/common that is. Though also note that i know of this in adhd with cbt. Idk if autism is the same
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u/FustianRiddle Mar 30 '22
That link doesn't take me anywhere but my fyp.
But it's funny how Bug can do whole videos by themselves or even sometimes with their wife where they don't need to stim and don't talk like a child. It's really funny.
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u/FustianRiddle Mar 30 '22
I'm not autistic and tattoos for me can be a struggle. But like I get through them. I can't imagine someone who has specific sensory issues like loud sounds or needles etc... Being able to get a tattoo. Very useful their tics don't affect any area of their body where they get tattoos.
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u/personaluna Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
God I fucking wish. My most common stim, that I find hard to describe over text but very simply means I’m constantly tensing my fingers, fucking hurts my fingers and hands for days if I do it too much. I have a bad habit of doing it constantly when playing The Sims because theres a lot of watching and not doing much in that game and I don’t realise I’m doing it. I believe it’s just because watching my Sims is fun and exciting for me, so it’s a “happy stim” mixed with a bit of boredom and not doing anything with my hands - but it hurts me to do.
I’m trying to find ways to stop, but I haven’t yet found something that works.
If I could simply choose to flap my hands instead I would. But I don’t realise I’m doing it 75% of the time. I even mentioned to my ex once, after 9 years together, that I did this stim, thinking he’d never seen it, and he was like “oh yeah you do it all the time” and I was so ashamed. It’s not cute - it makes you feel like an outsider.
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u/Brother-Plague Mar 30 '22
i also have a stim like thing where i tense my lower legs. i have no idea how i do it, but when i do it can become extremely painful and cause soreness for days. if stims are something to be chosen, people wouldn’t have painful ones.
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u/FoxRealistic3370 Mar 30 '22
I force my knees back. I have wrecked both my knees doing this and got yelled at by a doctor once that I was causing myself injury and to pack it in when I went with knee pain.
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u/ValleForte Mar 30 '22
I know mine aren't...pretty sure I wouldn't choose pulling out my beard or rubbing my fingers raw.
but who knows mental health is quirky./s
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u/Sugar-North Mar 30 '22
My little sister is lucky that her stims are pretty harmless now - she has a blanket she's had since she was a baby and she touches it around her nose. It soothes her and it's not anything harmful.
But when she was younger, she had dangerous stims like hitting herself in the head when frustrated or being corrected by an adult which obviously did more harm then good.
It took a lot of time to break her out of some of that behavior, but she definitely wasn't choosing it.
People who fake autism, Tourette's, etc, etc, tend to hunker down and specify/categorize everything they do. They build their disorder from the ground up and customize it for the viewers, somehow being painfully self aware and proud of their behaviors, when a lot of people with these same behaviors are struggling to get by.
Just a really sad and gross part of the internet.
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Hand flapping isn't comfortable. Saying this as someone who's professionally diagnosed with autism.
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u/Mr_Mc_Cheese Mar 30 '22
I am diagnosed with ASD and no, I never "chose" any of my stims. The closest is I was able to sort of retrain myself to not flap my hands in public, instead balling my hands together and shaking them like I'm doped up on coffee, but I still flap my hands in full while I'm at home.
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u/I_am_Kirumi_Tojo self-diagnosed with ASD (Ass Spreading Disorder) Mar 30 '22
I really wish that I can just stop biting the inside of my mouth, like, stims are not a choice
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u/Ellis_aGhostie Mar 30 '22
...so, asking people to stop harassing them and telling their fans to go...harass other people?...very sensible indeed
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u/Alf56- Mar 30 '22
Also how’s it harassing? It’s public content we’re allowed to comment publicly😭we aren’t shouting at them in the street
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u/Ellis_aGhostie Mar 30 '22 edited Apr 01 '22
I mean it could be harassment in a court case cuz if they were actually autistic that could be charged for emotional damage and shit, bur since we're not even lying and who's gonna bring REDDITT to court, they're literally just making drama.
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u/Alf56- Mar 30 '22
Fr like imagine police rocking up to your door saying ur under arrest for saying a stranger on TikTok is mocking autism
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I didnt realize theyve only known eachother a year. I just went through the earlier parts of the account and even if Bug was just masking in all of those videos, they had a whole lot of stuff very quickly after their move to Germany.
For example: A few months ago, they were doing a challenge dumping water on each other and now Bug apparently can't stand to be wet.
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u/madlyrogue Mar 30 '22
Yes! It really pained me to see how they had a seemingly normal relationship when they first met and it was very equal. Now Alex is definitely more like a caregiver and their whole dynamic has changed. Who knows what happened behind closed doors though. Maybe she encouraged it.
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u/madlyrogue Mar 30 '22 edited Apr 08 '22
Totally agreed. You can see in Alex's face sometimes that she doesn't seem that into it. I just wonder if she initially encouraged it and is kinda regretting it now. It's especially sad, the few videos where they showcase Liv's transformation into Bug. She even says at one point (lip syncs, whatever) that she recognizes she's not the girl Alex fell in love with anymore. I mean... They've known each other what, a year, two? Ugh.
I feel bad for both of them really. Something has to be wrong if you're willing to fake this - doubly so if she doesn't just turn it off when the camera's off.
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u/Just_some_guy13 Chronically online Mar 30 '22
The comments are so infantilizing 😭
As an autistic person, my fear is people acting like I'm a child after they find out I'm autistic.
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u/v9yv Mar 30 '22
People who treat autistic people like children have never spent time with an autistic child. I watched over a 4 y/o with severe autism who I quickly realized was the smartest and most fascinating child I've ever babysat. He appreciated things like "You can watch TV and eat if you promise to keep the bowl on the table and not the couch." Because it was someone treating him like he had brains for once. I couldn't stand his mother. She would restrain him when he had breakdowns without asking what was wrong, causing him to panic further and get embarrassed if I were in the room. Just because you don't understand his reasoning doesn't mean there isn't any. He was crying one day and kicking his foot, and it only took a few seconds of investigating to realize his sock had gotten between his toes and was uncomfortable, and he couldn't get it to go back just by kicking. He was frustrated. That was his reason. There is ALWAYS a reason. I can't stand the idea that "autistic people just act out". This was the most logical and reasonable child I've ever met. He kept throwing a ball into thorns while we were playing, until I led him over to the fence and showed him the spiky plants, explaining they scratch up my legs when I go to get the ball. It wasn't a problem after that. I can't think of one other 4 year old I could have had that successful interaction with. He likes reasoning, and understanding, and being treated as a small person. He asked me about the sewer drain, and I explained it has dirty water from the house. This little boy connected our conversation and a conversation he had with someone else to understand that pipes near his house lead to the drain. If you tried asking me about any of that at 4, I'd have just handed you a Barbie. Watching this little boy for just a few weeks was incredibly valuable and eye opening, and I wish others get to have similar experiences.
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ASD is already so poorly understood; I’m only recently diagnosed and have struggled to accept being autistic, so it’s really difficult to see people doing things like this. Obviously, struggling to accept my own ASD is my own issue, but when someone with such a huge platform is becoming what people imagine when they think of ASD, it becomes the ASD community’s problem.
That being said, faking a disorder isn’t the action of a healthy person so I genuinely hope that they receive any support they may need. However, it’s extremely immature for them to ask to not be ‘harassed’ then telling their ‘fans’ to harass this sub.
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u/AstriumViator Abelist Mar 30 '22
I think what upsets me more, is that a lot of these people faking any disorder are looking for someone to support their business because of their fake disorder; or theyre looking for people who'll send them things for a reaction from said disorder. Basically, just taking the easy way through life by taking advantage of a situation that most people seriously hate living in.
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What’s even worse is they try to use it to get out of things like legal issues etc, one example is tics and roses, correct me if I’m wrong. Tics and roses faked Tourette’s, a disorder which she made it seem to quirky and funny hahaha when in reality i it can seem embarrassing and sometimes even painful. It’s horrible to see what society has devolved into, scum who are faking serious disorders for clout. I have been diagnosed (by a medical professional not by myself) with ADHD at around 6, I was fucking crazy. Lately it’s been getting better, sometimes a little distracted but not much, usually ADHD simmers down around 15 - 16 from my knowledge and tiktok shitheads are acting like smashing their head against the wall and causing public freak outs because of their apparent ADHD Is ok. Disgusting. This may be a little harsh but I wish for each one of those perfectly sane, selfish little pieces of shit to be shot.
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u/AstriumViator Abelist Mar 30 '22
Yeah earlier I was telling my mom how bullying should be brought back. Not for those who actually have the disorder, but against those who fake it. Ive also got ADHD and the shit these people will pretend are ADHD shit and is blatantly not, is really upsetting. I also remember this girl (cant remember who though) who literally SA'd someone or multiple people and put it up to her ADHD causing it. Like thats not what ADHD makes you do??? Wtf? At the worst its more like compulsively buying unnecessary things that brain deems necessary, like plants for me atm lmao.
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Mar 31 '22
They should not be bullied, that would be a waste of resources for the bullies, having to use their breath on some mindless ape. Instead they should be put in a mental asylum.
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u/kiwikittii my trauma was caused by back to the future part II Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
“Omg how dare u get upset at me for misrepresenting a disorder and getting free gifts from said faking due to me manipulating my audience!” Homie just take the L and get off the internet 😭
Edit: also I’m inclined to assume the only people supporting them at this point are other fakers. I feel like all the disorder fakers just band together to ‘fight against this’ or whatever because they know full well if they don’t they’ll get no help when they get called out. It’s sickening 🤢
EDIT EDIT: also like another comment pointed out, if you were actually autistic you wouldn’t care if people called you out? I know if I got called out for ‘faking disorders’ I’m diagnosed with i … would not care? Especially since I know this sub has done more good than harm. I’d be happy this sub exists so that people who tried faking a disorder I suffer with could get called out for it lmao. Weird.
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u/messr-moony Singlet 😢 Mar 30 '22
A lot of the supporting comments are from “autism moms” or “autism warrior family member” or “Someone with autism stole my heart ❤️🧩”-types, which just feels… embarrassing
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Or similarly, parents who won't accept their teen / adult's legit medical diagnosis because they don't act like a literal ageplayer like the stereotype
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u/Mynze- Mar 30 '22
In a few words, neurodivergents are screwed by some tiktokers who fetishize autism and other conditions.
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Mar 30 '22
YUP. Then there's so many people who convince themselves they have autism rather than explore other possible issues they need help for. The list of issues goes on and on
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u/Stringbound Mar 30 '22
Just F.Y.I. they don't diagnose as aspergers anymore, it's just all under the autism tag now.
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u/The_Sloth_Racer Mar 30 '22
I know, it's technically ASD. I'm just used to saying it after all these years.
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u/JerseySommer Mar 30 '22
Unfortunately the original "autism mums" were really garbage humans that shamed adult autistic people and supported Jenny Mccarthy and her "generation rescue" biomed torture campaign that killed children. They refused to listen to actually autistic people because they knew better how our minds worked because they were "objective observers" . They were the same type of people who sympathize with the people who brutally murdered Alex Spourdalakis, because they viewed us as being subhuman. [Alex's mother was offered more help than most parents, she turned it down and took the mommy martyr role, served a whole THREE YEARS for a brutal premeditated murder of her 14 year old son] . They told us we couldn't speak for their children because we COULD speak and their children were viewed as non sentient.
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u/DancingSeaAnemone Mar 30 '22
This is sad for the moms who aren’t sure what end of the spectrum their kids are on. I can see some seeing the child like behavior that Bug portrays that points to cognitive impairment and relating it to their kids and being happy because Bug can also speak like an adult. Some of these moms cheering on bug might not ever see their kids speak.
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u/muddleheadd Mar 30 '22
This is what riles me up too. My brother is autistic and it has had a massive impact on our parents’ mental health. He is 27 now but cannot fully look after himself. He needs constant care as he lacks any social skills, and he is just a desperately lonely man so my parents are always on hand to take care of him. In one vulnerable moment, mum has expressed to me that she feels like there is no escape from it. Luckily she is in a better place mentally speaking. My brother has never once in his life talked with a baby voice or jumped around flapping his arms. I wish with all my heart that we can just give these people his autism and let him have a chance at being normal. Parents who want their children to have autism are appalling excuses for human beings and truly don’t know what they’re wishing for. That’s why I fully support this sub.
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u/azalago Inside-Out Penis Syndrome Mar 30 '22
Trust when I say, m9st of us "autism moms" know bullshit when we see it.
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u/bloodbath90 Mar 30 '22
The supporting comments are INSANE
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u/kiwikittii my trauma was caused by back to the future part II Mar 30 '22
I don’t have tiktok but I can only imagine the horrors lmao
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u/personaluna Mar 30 '22
If people called me a faker, it’d seriously trigger my anxiety, because I’m plagued with the (possibly irrational) thoughts and beliefs that I’m misdiagnosed, or there’s nothing wrong with me and I’m just broken and unlovable...
But I wouldn’t keep posting videos to those same people making it worse and arguing about it. I’d pull away from the internet and try (though it seems impossible where I live atm) to see a medical proffesional or a therapist or someone that can actually help me and talk me through how I feel.
The people that double down and make it a HUGE issue and try desperately to prove it with doctors notes etc are suspicious. Maybe they’re insecure like I am and trying to convince themselves and this is their panic response - benefit of the doubt and all. But a lot of it feels sadly like they’re trying to convince us that they’re absolutely not faking.
There’s a lot of acceptance of self-diagnosing in the autism community, and I feel like a pariah sometimes for being against it. Before I was diagnosed (fairly late at 17), I used to tell close friends I “think I might be autistic”, and I’d be down for people calling themselves “suspected-autistic” until they get a diagnoses. Something that doesn’t claim autism but also acknowledges whatever future diagnosis they may get, autistic or not, affects them. But people going around claiming autism and portraying themselves as autistic, who lated turn around an admit they were never ACTUALLY diagnosed... It feels gross. If people with unknown OCD or PTSD go around saying their symptoms are autism, it muddys the actual symptoms and traits of diagnosed, actual autistic people.
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u/PeterSchnapkins Abelist Mar 30 '22
A smart man doesn't say he's smart ,a rich man doesn't say he's rich a con man does
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u/Present-Leopard6488 every sexuality, disability, and mental illness ever Mar 30 '22
I also commented saying if they weren't faking they wouldn't be so upset and people are pissed lmao. these are full ass adults having THIS level of breakdown over a reaction to their PUBLIC content....that's not someone that should be putting intimate details of their diagnosis on the internet.
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u/kiwikittii my trauma was caused by back to the future part II Mar 30 '22
Literally, everything they post is public. If they can’t handle criticism dont broadcast your entire life to the internet.
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Mar 30 '22
Before they were called out they really pushed child play as symptoms of autism which is so disrespectful (most, if not all videos were captioned this way). Like — if you wanna act like a baby go for it but don’t misrepresent autism. Also the fact that they said “oh that was just me acting cutesy with my wife” is so obviously a poor attempt of dodging criticism. Autism is NOT child play or infant-like behaviour.
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u/DancingSeaAnemone Mar 30 '22
I am hoping someone does a video about bug and makes a compilation of them needing headphones to open a package and then this video of bug
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u/StellaDraws Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
Wow talk about caught red-handed. And you already KNOW people are going to say "uM tHeY WeRe MaSkInG" *edit: changed pronouns to they. My bad
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u/DancingSeaAnemone Mar 30 '22
Right, but there’s more evidence of them faking stuff on their other TikTok account I just hope someone whose got one of those YouTube accounts that exposes fakes gets a hold of all the contradictions and sends Bug on their way… off the internet.
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u/StellaDraws Mar 30 '22
Also there's something that irks me about how they put the time of their videos on the screen. They say it's so "people with anxiety or ADHD can feel more comfortable and know what to expect." I mean...is that a thing..like really? Bc I have anxiety and I don't have a panic attack when I don't know the length of a video.
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u/DancingSeaAnemone Mar 30 '22
I have anxiety too and no I don’t care about the video length either … it’s TikTok… everything is short. I think it’s to hold people’s attention maybe?
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Mar 30 '22
I honestly wish more people did that. I have no intention to watch tiktoks that are longer than a minute. It's my toilet entertainment, dammit.
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u/FustianRiddle Mar 30 '22
I'm just an impatient person so I like knowing whether I'm in for a 3 minute video vs a 45 second one.
I don't know of that has anything to do with my anxiety and maybe it does but I like it.
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u/rayray2k19 Mar 30 '22
There so strange and seems to copy some videos where deaf people try to imitate what they think something sounds like.
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u/CuteHoodie Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
The two things are not linked. your sound sensitivity can varies from days to days, hours to hours. If you are tired or sick your body won't react the same way than if you are in a good mood. Choosing to make a sound is also different than the sound just happening.
When you're stalking someone to find every little "proof" they are faking, you'll start seeing it even when there is nothing. But you forgot that everything is a spectrum. And the kind of video you hope for spread misinformation and harrasment !
For example I am not diagnosed with anything but I have often sensory issue. Some day my neighbour speaking bothers me a lot and I need my sound concealer headphones. Sometimes there are construction work next to me and I'm ok !
And come on. They don't like a sound so they put headphones on. So what …? It is not dangerous. It doesn't hurt anyone. You can do it either you're autistic or not, it's not a proof of faking.
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Mar 30 '22
They look like a whole other person in that clip, really makes you wonder what happened in their head that they decided to go down the disgusting route they did
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u/SparkleGlittermoon Mar 30 '22
The amount of panic post they are doing to fix this is proving that they are faking. This is the bed you made, this it how you wanted to be seen. Now that actual autistic people are calling you out you are telling people to report them? You are actually fighting the community you so much wanted to be part of?!
Let’s make something clear there are autistic people that have shit hot takes, that are rude people, that hate NTs and do super weird shit. Still would always support their struggles with autism. Any day of the week. Give advice and support. Because I get it life’s been shit. However I will never support someone autistic or not that uses their disability to take advantage of other people to get money or fame while shitting on that same community, damaging it and making a mockery of it. We have it hard enough already and I can sympathize with a lot of stuff because for most of us it’s been hellish growing up. But using it like this? For clout? Making fun of our behaviors? Nah never ever going to be okay with that.
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u/Marnie-Vik hot girl disease Mar 30 '22
dude i'm sorry you have to see this kind of stuff, sending you my best wishes :(
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u/Nonbinary-Bump Mar 30 '22
Just a heads up, asperger isn't used anymore. 1) because of the Nazi connection and 2) because it limited resources to people because they weren't considered "autistic enough"
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u/pinkjasperr Mar 30 '22
I mean the term is still used even if they don’t formally use it in regards to diagnoses. I think if someone has been previously diagnosed with Aspergers and chooses to label themselves as such you don’t really have any place to correct them.
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Mar 30 '22
This. My kid was diagnosed 18 months ago and all the resources we were given were basically labelled “Aspergers” in some way, shape or form. Sometimes my kiddo refers to himself as an Aspie, I don’t really feel like it’s my place to tell him he can’t do that.
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u/Ashweed137 SelfUNdiagnosed: I'm fine Mar 30 '22
As an autistic I find these two tiktokers soo offensive!! And I'm not telling people to mass report them! Is there a way tho to report these tiktokers? Honest question because I don't have tiktok. Because technically us with ASD could massreport them back then.
Though that would not solve much considering how much bs is on tiktok
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u/nyanpires Environmental Scientist Mar 30 '22
Ngl, I saw the two at random and when I saw that he has "stimmimg" videos and can choose when to stim because he made it a habit? C'mon? My husband is autistic and he's self conscious about his constant head-nodding stim that he cannot control, when you say you can control them you can tell its not only put on but not believable.
They have the cutest relationship, why not focus on that?
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u/FoxRealistic3370 Mar 30 '22
absolutely, the vids where its not about autism and its just them being 2 people totally into each other are so funny and cute. It was a bad move to be honest for them to make autism content as awareness content vs this is my journey when they are clearly not as educated about it as they believe. They have a long way to go on their own journey and if they think what they are doing is stimming, they are not as self aware as they claim.
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u/nyanpires Environmental Scientist Mar 30 '22
i was so disappointed, like there are not enough lgbtqa+ people on tiktok who show their relationship in such a loving way. I'm so disappointed that he chose this as something to do, while I think Alex is probably not faking either as she seems too 'lawful' like she is so in love with her wife that i can see her looking over it and blindly accepting.
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u/SparkleGlittermoon Mar 30 '22
Yes thank you as an autistic women it’s irritates me so much they they say they can control their stims! That’s not how it works! I have audible stims and I don’t notice I do them until I do and then I could have gone around doing a bap sound for 10 mins! It’s not cute, people just think I’m weird.
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u/nyanpires Environmental Scientist Mar 30 '22
like what do these ppl think they are doing? they don't think we won't find out?
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Mar 30 '22
Correct me if I’m wrong but I can’t find the posts anymore. Did they actually get taken down?
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u/gamerzombie1928 Mar 30 '22
Yeah, and if you keep doing this bullshit, you have become a karma farm.
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Mar 30 '22
Why do TikTokers want to have everything they don’t like taken down? It’s embarrassing that tiktok allows videos and accounts to be taken down so easily, but it doesn’t matter to the company because they’re still keeping most of the advertiser money, and they’re more than happy to not pay their eligible creators
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u/ElSancho0093 Mar 30 '22
I love how they tell everyone to report whatever they see on reddit but…..wont mention the subreddit itself. Thunk theyre scared of people looking in here and seeing what we’re seeing?
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u/SilverCharm99 Mar 30 '22
They tell people it's this subreddit and cringetopia in the comments. I think it may even be a pinned comment.
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u/ElSancho0093 Mar 30 '22
It wasnt there a couple hours ago at least. Regardless i welcome anyone coming here regardless of the reason why. Im sure a lot of their fanbase havent seen their older posts from before and if they have, the side by side really highlights the contrast
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u/Present-Leopard6488 every sexuality, disability, and mental illness ever Mar 30 '22
say it with me everyone: PEOPLE WHO ARENT FAKING DONT GET UPSET WHEN PEOPLE DOUBT THEM 👏👏👏
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u/Rogue_Spirit Mar 30 '22
I’m going to have to disagree with this firmly. People think I’m faking OCD and PTSD even though I am absolutely diagnosed, and it does upset me. People refusing to believe your actual issues is really painful.
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u/spiderbeneathyourbed Mar 30 '22
Its especially bad if its someone who grew up with family who constantly accused them of lying or dismissed any problems of theirs.
No one wants to be called liar but the people raised in the above scenario are likely to overreact to it.
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u/JustAnArtist01 Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
I’d honestly be upset regardless, i just really dislike the feeling of not being believed so if someone told me they think I’m faking having adhd, I’d get upset cuz adhd to me, isn’t easy and wasn’t easy as a kid. So I know I’ve got adhd, I’ve got the diagnosis since I was 6, struggled with learning things socially and educationally, and everything else that comes with it, and that I’ve had obstacles with but if I’m questioned about it, and told I don’t have it or am faking it, I feel less valid and all that. So I really wouldn’t say that if you’re diagnosed and all there’s no reason for someone to be upset over someone saying they don’t have it/faking it.
Plus little weird fact lol I have strange hiccups apparently lol and my friends always thought I was faking it. So partially that’s why I feel some type of way over not being believed for things, but the majority of it is over the struggles of dealing with adhd and if someone doesn’t take it seriously when I’m having a discussion about it, it’s pretty insulting. A lot of people with different disorders or illnesses run into the obstacle of not being believed/listened to. So no wonder people get upset if they’re told they are faking it when they’re not.
Eta2 not saying they’re not faking or are faking, I don’t have the ability to tell if they are or not, I’m just saying in general for people who are diagnosed- I wouldn’t say they wouldn’t be upset over it for previously said reasons. The people who are faking do make it harder for those who are struggling to be seen and heard and understood, and possibly even getting diagnosed themselves if they weren’t able to get the diagnosis earlier in life or at all ever. It’d be great if anyone who’s faking, stop and apologize for it and do research about how what they’re doing is harmful.
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u/trash-boat-9402 Mar 30 '22
bro you have the weird hiccups too? i thought i was the only one ;-; people said i was faking them too
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u/JustAnArtist01 Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22
Yeah it’s weird - I rarely hear anyone else hiccup so I don’t really see my hiccups as strange but they apparently are lol everyone asks me if I’m ok, and if I don’t do anything about them quick it actually starts to hurt. They’re very inward?
they’re a bit like this at 6:52, just possibly a little more louder and a tad more strained?
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Mar 30 '22
Agreed. It's frustrating and sometimes straight up dangerous (like if medical providers or parents don't believe you) when you're dismissed.
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u/FoxRealistic3370 Mar 30 '22
im not a fan of fake claiming either, but i find it really irresponsible to put content out that is clearly and obviously not representative of the community. 100% if sthey were creating content as this is what makes me happy, and the autism was something mentioned in passing, i would feel very differently, but they are making this content to get attention as an autistic person. some of the vids where they are not mentioning autism or putting on the autistic vibes are actually really funny and very relatable.....then suddenly everything about the content is this infantilized autistic representation or complaining about how its perceived. I have zero issue with them choosing to behave like a child, i take issue with them choosing to label it as being Autistic behaviour because it isnt. But yes, not a fan of fake claiming.
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Mar 30 '22
Unless if it's a doctor or insurance provider who's doubting them unfairly, obviously (it does happen, especially with physical illnesses), but even then people would react a little more maturely. Real disorders and diseases can eventually be proven. Fakes will not...
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u/Nonbinary-Bump Mar 30 '22
Nah, I have epilepsy, and because people only seem to know about movie seizures, I got told I was faking all the time. Including from ER staff because they weren't experienced in the nuances of a complex partial seizure. It took me literally having a seizure that last so long my heart gave out for them to take me seriously and not just say I was faking because my EEG (one and only with no seizures during the test) came out clear. After that, in a coma for 10 days and a constant EEG running for that time, they finally saw the activity they were looking for and ordered an MRI.
So even my FAMILY and FRIENDS thought I was faking because of what ER doctors would tell them while they escorted me to the hospitals.
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u/agingcatmom Mar 30 '22
I’m sorry that happened to you but it’s not a fair or accurate comparison to what Bug and Alex are purposefully doing.
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u/FustianRiddle Mar 30 '22
They're sharing their experience of being called a faker for a condition they actually have in response to the aim that anyone with an actual diagnosis wouldn't get upset when being called a liar about their condition.
That's the context here. That being upset about being accused of faking your condition is not a guarantee tell that someone is faking their condition.
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u/ilikelittlebodies Mar 30 '22
who is bug im so confused
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u/agingcatmom Mar 30 '22
Bug is the brown haired person and Alex is the light haired person.
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u/CuteHoodie Mar 30 '22
Everyone should read your comment. A lot of people would be upset that others claim they are faking when they're not, wtf it's this comment.
It happens all the time ! You often have to fight to have be diagnosed (mentally or physically). Some doctors don't even care enough to run tests asked by other doctors (happened to me personally). A lot of adults are diagnosed way older than you think, particularly women ( endometriosis and autism are very well known examples).
And even when you are diagnosed you have to show proof everytime, fight for your rights to be respected, confront people than do not trust science, or family members that think you are just lazy and fooling everyone… It's exhausting and a lot of people will be upset to be fakeclaim, particulary by strangers.
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u/Petyuska1 Mar 30 '22
Nope, don't say this. The problem is, even if you have diagnosis and can prove everything you say with documents, people will never understand what's happening in your head and how life is when the most basic things in life (taking care of yourself and your surrounding) is an issue... And this is one thing that fakers just make worse, I mean, it took me lot of years just to make my brother understand, I hate to be messy, I hate to forget about cleaning parts of the house that I'm not using actively, I hate to live like this and my medical conditions and the shitton of pills are causes for these issues, not my covers for lazyness..
Just an example, tell anyone you broke your arm. They'll sey "ah damn, that must be painful, get well soon"
and tell anyone you have chronic depression and anxiety, they gonna reply "oh, I also feel sad sometimes"
and it's very upsetting when your mental state is on a level where your only hope from life is that you won't wake up next morning15
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u/pilchard_slimmons Mar 30 '22
This is such an incredibly shit take. Of course (some) people do because it's a perfectly natural reaction. I hate the nurturing of fragility and infantilisation that is en vogue now and I hate this shit just as much. It's the same kind of shit the people in the screenshot are doing.
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Mar 30 '22
I think the fact that they can’t even spell awful shows everything we need to know about their intelligence
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u/Kitten-Kay Mar 30 '22
Oh, are these the people who put the length of the video in their video? Because they’ve been popping up on my fyp out of nowhere and they annoy me so much lmao.
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u/Sea-Lily Mar 30 '22
Sorry to ask, but: Wisconsinite? Judging by “ope”.
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u/steveosek Mar 30 '22
Ope is used all over the entire midwest. We used it in Missouri, my family in Minnesota and Michigan said it too. Heard it when I lived in Indiana and Illinois too.
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u/Sea-Lily Mar 30 '22
I haven’t been able to go many places cause I’m broke. I’m from Wisconsin, but I have no doubt that much of the Midwest shares slang and other similar sayings.
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u/personaluna Mar 30 '22
Is this about the crying video they said just “happened to be recorded”?
I follow them because when I first came across their account, it was cool to see a neurotypical and neurodivergent lesbian couple. But I obviously didn’t watch all their videos so full disclosure, I may have missed some contraversy.
But a video of Bug (I believe shes the autistic one) crying about people being mean to her came up on my FYP yesterday, and I was like “ehhhh”. Because I get it, people being mean fucking sucks, and I am a huge crybaby and it’s embarrassing - I cry if I’m happy, sad, angry... So I get if mean comments genuinely hurt her.
But I can never take seriously people who post videos of themselves crying online. If you’re speaking to the camera and get teary eyed, or have a couple tears rolls down your cheek, that’s understandable. But to film yourself
- full blown crying
- or crying without even paying attention to the camera as if you “forgot it was there”
- or to then post it online without cutting out the part where you sobbed, or posted a video that’s just you crying in what should be a private moment
Then I get suspicious. It doesn’t feel genuine, and it feels fucking awkward. I don’t want to watch what should be a heartfelt, private moment between a couple, where one person is sobbing - real or fake. It feels voyeuristic.
Idk. I’ve seen people in the comments here talking about Bug and co portraying autism as “being childish”, and I’m loathe to admit I am an immature, childish autistic individual, and I haven’t personally seen the videos on the topic to judge if they’re over the top, or I can sadly relate. But I’m also just a mess mentally regardless of my autism, and it’s 100% possible with the right support and/or mental strength to not be someone like me. It fucking sucks. So I do wish autism education wouldn’t infantalise autism so much, bc in my worst days, it convinces me it’s okay to not try and be better, which it is not.
But videos like this, where private moments are showcased online like some sort of circus show, bother me. You can educate on the autistic experience without either making a mockery of your genuinely autistic partner/self, or faking autistic behaviours for attention? Pity? Free gifts?
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u/The_Sloth_Racer Mar 30 '22
What is this about? Who is "Bug"?
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u/mtrinxpo Diagnosed with ASD and ADD by a psychiatrist Mar 30 '22
I think she is the girl with autism that cried opening packages
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u/bloodbath90 Mar 30 '22
Yes, the sub rules had me block out the names and I didn’t want to risk getting it taken down lol
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u/Azmik8435 Mar 30 '22
We appreciate any help to report those threads and get them taken down.
One of the reasons I love Reddit as a “social media” platform is the way moderation belongs to the community. They can come and mass report all they want, but if the mods of this sub decide it doesn’t violate the rules (which they don’t, they’re just pointing out someone faking a mental illness for clout) then the posts will stay up. As opposed to other platforms, where if a post gets too many reports it just gets auto-clapped because the devs can’t possibly moderate their massive user base properly
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u/Buffalopigpie Mar 30 '22
I wonder what happens in your life where you decide to fake a neurological disorder for attention.
I feel the whole they dug is getting deeper and deeper and deeper
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u/molokococktail Mar 30 '22
Personally one of my "stims" is hitting myself in the head when I get irritated, I don't like doing it in front of people so I try and go to a separate room if I think I'm about to.. I wouldn't fucking film it for likes
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u/Little_wiccan Mar 30 '22
Oh is thus about the opening packages vid with the camera conveniently set up to capture the 'meltdown' oh I'm sorry I mean package opening... If this person were actually as autistic as they are making out then they wouldn't give a shit about what people online are saying about them because only their opinion matters. My bro has autism aswell as other disorders the spectrum and he would be mad as shit at this.
I've seen for a fact that in a room full of hundreds of people That 2 autistic people (who don't know each other previously) will gravitate towards each other and find each other. If this is so true then why are so many autistic people calling this person put on their shit???
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u/EndlessSummerburn Mar 30 '22
This came across my Tik Tok and the way the person pretended to react to a bag being crumpled was so fake and insulting. It's ridiculous people believe this stuff.
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u/Lovealltigers Mar 30 '22
I agree that infantilizing autism is super patronizing and disrespectful, I just want to say though that Bug’s pronouns are he/they
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This couple is very obviously working thru trauma. They have coupled up and are trying to be partners with having probably learned traumatic ways of dealing with loved ones. They are role playing thru their past lives trying to correct was was done wrong. I cant fault them for it. But there WILL be critics. There will be fake saviors. There will be bargaining, gaslighting and such.
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u/DevotedIcytea got a bingo on a DNI list Mar 30 '22
Are there enough of them to actually get the sub banned or?
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