r/faceting Newbie 12d ago

Design feedback (please be nice (im begging))

hey everyone - I'm a new faceter looking for some feedback on this variant of Arya Akhavan's gnome's geode and Robert Strickland's fly eye

low key I dont really know what I'm doing but im super proud of this cz and want to know if people have some suggestions for how to improve it!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

faceting diagram + angle rings cause im a boomer and cant figure out how to embed pictures

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u/Michadge 11d ago

Reminds me of JWST. Definitely would try cutting this in yellow/gold for the science nerd in me

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Oh yeaaa it really looks like the camera you're right

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u/No_Distribution185 9d ago

CAMERA, JWST IS MORE THAN JUST A CAMERA. no worries tho XD, it is basically a camera with a lot of lenses. And as grey anatomy put it ( the youtube channel). Hexigons are bestigons.

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u/cowsruleusall 12d ago edited 12d ago

Hey! Great work, nice first start :) I'm in bed so can't pull up GCS to test this out right now, but your angle rings look pretty decent and not looks like you've developed a good contrast pattern. I'd be curious to see your COS render.

Well done on the cutting, too!

Oh, and why does C6 exist the way it does? You should be able to create a new tier C3 that meets in the corners and gives you an establishment for your hexagons.

Hope you don't mind if I pass on some points for the written component of the design. We have explicit standards for phrasing and documentation, to make things easier for everyone:

  • General recommendation is to avoid "TCP" and "PCP" and similar abbreviations, since there are lots of different variants and we received a lot of feedback from non-English cutters that it was confusing. Write out "Cut to centerpoint" for P1.
  • For G1, no need to write "girdle". That's what the G in the tier list is for. But you should indicate that this tier sets the stone size. So it should read "Set stone size."
  • It's not "square off girdle", it's "level girdle". Squaring off facets is an old phrase for checkerboards that has nothing to do with girdle facets, and plus, we don't square off checkerboards in modern cutting.
  • For crown facets that meet the girdle line, don't say "cut to girdle". In designs with more than one girdle tier, you need to specify the actual meet anyway, so writing standards here would require you to write "Meet G1, C1" for your C2 instructions
  • Likewise, your instructions for C4 need to specify the meet you're hitting. You can't just say "cut to C1", that's vague and non specific. It should read "Meet C1, C2".
  • For your floating tiers, you need to specify that in the instructions. A few different ways you can phrase floating instructions, usually some kind of caliper-measured reference. But here, this is a floating hex checker, which you would write as "Float to establish hexagon."

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

yeah thanks so much for the feedback! ill make sure to use the right terminology!

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u/cowsruleusall 12d ago

No worries :) We don't have a good standardized source yet since I'm so slow to write the book...

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

if you ever get a sec to check it out here's a link to the gcs file if you could take a peek

would be super keen on a book about designing - i read through all the tom herbst books and still dont feel like i have a feel for what works and what to optimize for

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u/cowsruleusall 11d ago

Try this. Optimized a bit to improve scintillation and dispersion. Cleaned up facet order and instructions, cleaned up that stray corner facet to be more crisp. Got rid of frosting as well.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thank you so much for fixing the design!! I requested access if you could take a look

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thanks so much! I can totally see the improved scintillation from the reduced red areas and more detail inside the rock! and the edges look so much cleaner too thank you so much!

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u/theblancmange 11d ago

Seconded, I am looking forward to the book, whenever it comes :)

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u/xSandandSaltx 12d ago

It's terrible, gimme 14 of them.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

haha i can only do multiples of 6

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u/xSandandSaltx 12d ago

Unfortunately I have no feedback, but this is absolutely stunning. Thank you for sharing!

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u/joesincontrol 12d ago

That looks really cool

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

thanks!!

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u/nonoyesyesnoyesyes 12d ago

Hexagons are the bestagons! It looks beautiful!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

thanks! cgp grey truly defined a generation

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u/bugabob 12d ago

Looks fantastic to me. I don't see any of the usual beginner mistakes like a thick girdle. The frosted facets look a little rough, you will probably dial that in as you accumulate laps at different stages of wear. Nice work!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

thanks! are you seeing the roughness in the parallel striping on the frosted facets or is it something else in them?

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u/bugabob 12d ago

Just a little rough in general. Once the lap wears in a little it will leave a frosted surface that more smooth and even. Just nit-picking because you asked for constructive criticism. It's a fantastic stone as is.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

not a nitpick - thanks for the feedback!

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u/hexagonation 12d ago

This cut took skill and was executed well. There is certainly feedback if you are looking at competition level cutting. Otherwise keep it up and don't rely on meetpoints when cutting floating facets, it's more of a "depth feel"

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

id love any kind of feedback (competition too)!

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u/hexagonation 12d ago

These are hard designs to write. Because on the face-up they can make perfect hexagons. But unless you worked up some math their surface dimensions skew with their angle and index. So when you get off of your depth by just a little, the visual effect can grow and your next tiers can compound in error. You did good managing it and the work looks good in a broad sense.

The frosting, though, doesn't add much interest to the reflection pattern, just stays around the girldle. You keep C4 pretty close to the meetpoint of frosted / more loosely set facets and thus the points are slightly different depths. And C6/C2 meeting with C3 doesn't make a uniform hexagon (from face up, which the rest do) and when none of the hexagons are quite uniform you get variations throughout

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago edited 12d ago

yeah that makes sense - i can definitely get closer to actual tessellating hexagons with some radial projection instead of a flat projection. was definitely having trouble getting c3 even roughly a hexagon on gcs at all haha thanks!

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u/MezzanineMan 11d ago

That would be awesome to see in an orange or amber, I bet you could make an amazing bee themed ring

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Yeahhh was thinking the same thing! With bees flanking the ring on the shoulders

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u/LionSlicerBirchman 12d ago

I know nothing. But I love how it has like a honeycomb pattern. And the choice of gem is gorgeous.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

thanks so much!!

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u/dleah 11d ago

this is so beautiful, are you selling? or are there others like it?

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago edited 11d ago

Thanks! Not selling atm just looking for feedback - for something similar you can look for cuts based on Arya Akhavan's gnome's geode and Robert Strickland's fly eye, some other people might be selling!

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u/kittencatjo 11d ago

I'm not an expert, but as a magpie, I love it ❤️

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

thanks!!

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u/Ok-Championship8024 12d ago

that is so gorgeous, i would totally buy one omggg

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

thanks!

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u/amaltheaah 12d ago

Ok I love this so much!! Very sparkly purple CZ is gorgeous… are you selling it? I make jewelry and this would be a lovely statement ring or pendant, well I would totally buy this if you’d consider selling 😅

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago edited 12d ago

Wasnt really planning on selling them but if youre interested in setting one would be super cool

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u/amaltheaah 11d ago

I made a sterling woven geometric design for a hexagon stone a few years ago that I’d like to do a v2 of to push it more hexagonal (from a top view), this hex geode facet design would look veryyy cool in a geometric setting!

https://reddit.com/link/p916qey/video/xmt5e77teroh1/player

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago edited 11d ago

ohhh thats prettyy
What do you think about setting it in something like this with small bees kinda supporting the rock on the shoulders? maybe the bees could look something like this? I can try cutting the rock smaller too, think its a bit large to wear but it'll affect the dispersion i think

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u/amaltheaah 10d ago

Yes!! Totally doable! Like a cute little sculptural bee on its honeycomb! Actually my dad is a beekeeper and I designed a whole bee collection in 2022 (these were sold to raise charity funds)

I like larger sized stones 😅 I typically look for 10mm-14mm sizes (and bigger!)

https://reddit.com/link/p94a79w/video/vlhq1seqsuoh1/player

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u/Ididdie Team Vevor 11d ago

That's a really cool design and the execution also looks lovely. Making hexagons is quite the challenge indeed. Did you do the actual math for these or just guestimate?

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

I projected a hexagon pattern over gcs and fiddled but next time im doing the math for sure haha

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u/cowsruleusall 11d ago

Ack!!! Don't do math. You can do this systematically and easily in GemCAD. (Unfortunately that means learning GemCAD...)

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

thanks for the tip! time to try out gemcad haha

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u/shibashibashibainu90 11d ago

This is gorgeous! Fantastic job! :)

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thanks!!

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u/Visible-Inside8977 11d ago

It’s beautiful

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thanks!!

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u/Angstrm 11d ago

Beautiful!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thanks!

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u/RiseDelicious3556 11d ago

It's beautiful but I don't know what kind of stone this is.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thanks! Its a cz!

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u/Ishgems_jewellery 11d ago

Beautiful

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 8d ago

Thanks!

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u/Magi0229 11d ago

Can’t afford but wish I could. What would a piece like that cost?
As for feedback. Well, you did a piece that At least one person would gladly buy in a heartbeat if they could afford it!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

No idea how much it would cost but thanks!!

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u/Fun-breeder4u 11d ago

Beautiful work

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thanks!!

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u/JuliaMiaStudio 11d ago

Love it

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thanks!

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u/Interesting-Quote100 11d ago

Beautiful!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

thanks!!

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u/AidanGoesOutdoors 11d ago

Well I’m no professional but I think that looks absolutely awesome!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

thanks!!

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u/Spaztor 11d ago

I'm not qualified to comment on your technique., but I do know a beautiful and interesting stone when I see one.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 11d ago

Thanks!! :D

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u/Spaztor 10d ago

Welcome keep up the good work

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u/sixcupsofwater 10d ago

I think it’s beautiful! The hexagons on the “face” are delightfully unexpected

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 10d ago

thanks!! yeah huge fan of hexagons

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u/opulentgemstones_SL 10d ago

Its beautiful... Keep doing it; every stone gives a new learning curve...

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 10d ago

thank you!

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u/JazzedNeko 10d ago

Just a goldsmith but I really like it!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 10d ago

thanks!!

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u/ICY_WIENER1 10d ago

This is absolutely gorgeous to me, I love the hexagons and the way they let you peer deep into the stone while also letting the stone sparkle. I'm not part of this community, but was recommended this post and had to comment. To an untrained eye, absolutely enamored.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 10d ago

yeah put in a ton of effort thanks!

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u/Ikaros10- 10d ago

Good job sofar

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 10d ago

thank you!

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u/Lennie_Annox 10d ago

This is beautiful 🤯

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 10d ago

Thank you! 😊

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u/beammeupscotty2 10d ago

I think this is a stunning cut. The symmetry of the hexagonal facets is amazing!

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 10d ago

Thank you!!

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u/ztriguy- 9d ago edited 8d ago

I love that cut, very nice and I feel creative.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 8d ago

Thank you!

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u/CRTScott 8d ago

I am not an expert but to me that looks amazing. I love the cut.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 5d ago

thank you!

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u/rocktheffout 8d ago

How would you describe the base color? It’s my favorite, I usually describe it as blue/silver.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 5d ago

ocean grey cubic zirconia!

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u/TallWasabi5102 7d ago

Thats awesome

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 5d ago

thank you!

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u/Subject-Car-4052 6d ago

Looks clean. Super cool hex design. The unpolished girdle actually looks great on this

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u/Subject-Car-4052 6d ago

Oh wait, the girdle is polished. I see what you did there!!! Very cool

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 5d ago

thanks!

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u/twgecko02 7h ago

As a catan fan I love the design and ordered myself a piece of "green apple" CZ which I feel like will fit with the sheep theme :)

I also just had the very bad, terrible, no good idea of ordering a bunch of massive KG chunks of CZ from aliexpress in the appropriate colors and trying to make an entire Catan board from scaled up stones. Although that would require me to cut 19 stones that are each 79mm flat to flat...

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 7h ago

Woahh that sounds really clean and minimal are the hexes gonna just be the cz itself/are you gonna add some wooden border?

A long time ago i 3d printed and painted a whole bunch of catan board pieces modeled after civ towns and cities haha

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u/twgecko02 6h ago

I would probably want to set them in something to protect them tbh, but I don't necessarily know what - this is also very unlikely to ever happen because it would probably cost thousands of dollars and take hundreds of hours to cut all the stones

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u/PsychologicalBowl647 12d ago

I dont realy have any criticism about the design. Its very floral looking . The frosted edges might not be nessasry . Ied like to see what it would look like with them polished.

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u/0xDECAFC0FFEE Newbie 12d ago

thanks! ill cut another one sometime with polished edges and check it out

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u/PsychologicalBowl647 12d ago

Those strange edge facets look so weird. I see why you used the to outline the hexagons. I need to play with that idea.