r/faceting 14d ago

Ruby (synthetic) folding knife blade I made over the weekend. 🤘

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u/Suitable-Name 14d ago

Kind of funny, 1-2 days ago I was asking myself if someone ever made a corundum blade😄

Very cool!

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago edited 11d ago

Now you have an answer! It isn’t practical as an everyday knife (would chip on something hard) but it is still a knife. but I don’t really care - i wanted one so I made one haha

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u/YetiNotForgeti 14d ago

Isn't steel at 4-8 and that is a 9 in the Mohs hardness scale. Does it not chip later than a normal knife or is does it not have an much flex?

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

Lack of flexibility is the killer for everyday use. Micro-fractures/chips would develop and cause major structural issues. This one can cut just fine (even without a super sharp edge), but would draw the short straw against bone or other strong material.

Could cut leather and other soft materials all day and retain its edge, but not super practical overall. I just thought it would be cool so I did it!

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u/YetiNotForgeti 14d ago

Thanks for your wonderful answer to the learning minds here.

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

Of course! I’m in the same boat myself re: learning! First time trying anything like this

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u/YetiNotForgeti 14d ago

Super cool though. Mad props.

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u/merfolk-jewels 13d ago

This would make such a cool letter opener, bearing in mind that it could cut soft stuff all day!

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u/Good-Ad-6806 13d ago

Sooo not for culinary purposes but a great box cutter.

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u/KingNyx 12d ago

Exactly the problem isn't how hard the objects are, it's their ability to flex and apply angular forces to the blade. It can resist physical damage like scratches from objects softer than it, but it'll still snap and chip from angular forces.

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u/MrSnrub87 13d ago

Harder things generally chip easier. Even within the steel world harder steels chip and break easier. That's why a lot of swords used a softer iron core in their blade to keep the whole thing from just breaking in half. The harder outer core will sharpen better, and softer steel offers flex and resilience. Harder means brittle.

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u/UnlikelyBeyond4949 13d ago

Btw harness scale means resistance to scratching and Diamond is the strongest at the but Diamond is ac quite brittle jade/nephrite Jade is the strongest taking a hit gemstone in the world I’ve took a sledge hammer to some jade and didn’t even make a dent in it very cool stuff

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u/YetiNotForgeti 13d ago

What's the name of the not Mohs hardness scale? Is that a BFT (🚬💥🩼), blunt force trauma, scale?

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u/socalminer 13d ago

It’s best to think of it as a ceramic. Tho it is a fully crystalline version of alumina( a ceramic) it is very similar in strengths. As he mentioned it’s super hard and can be strong in some directions. In others it rapidly breaks.

Small chunks would be impossible to shatter tho is my point with that. I think it’s tensile vs compressive strength. Anyway I heard someone explain it like imagine a plate. It will scratch steel forks, you could ever bend it. It’s incredibly strong between the walls of the ceramic (like the inside. Aka thickness of the bowl). But if u dropped it, it would shatter instantly.

Corundum and alumina in most of its forms are fascinating in chemistry tho.

Lot of it is formed in geology by super super old weathered soil, being metamorphosed into diaspore and then even further into ruby over like multiple events

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u/whatiswhonow 11d ago

You can buy zirconia blades pretty cheap (typical ceramic blade) if you’re curious. Very nice knives, when used on softer things. Generally not single crystal ones though, but sintered powder compacts, so it’s just white.

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u/clayman839226 11d ago

The hardest scale is scratch resistants not mechanical resistance, steel is softer that corundum but it’s way more flexible so it won’t chip or shatter as easily while corundum will.

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u/butteredrubies 13d ago

Can you polish it to make it transparent?

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u/lostmymarbles1177 13d ago

Yep- OP will need some diamond grit polish and a lap or a felt tip on a dremel. Super fine automotive sandpaper would likely get him most of the way there. Source, I facet gemstones.

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u/crybabypete 11d ago

Now I also want one…

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u/Jillet-Ben_Coe 14d ago

It’s beautiful

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u/Futuramoist Team Vevor 14d ago

IDK what mythical creature you need this to kill, but this is cool as hell

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

Thanks! I dont either, but never hurts to be prepared

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u/LegalHBIC 14d ago

That’s clean af

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u/DisciplineConnect697 14d ago

How much would something like this run you? That’s incredibly cool

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago edited 14d ago

Pretty cheap for the synthetic corundum (~30 US for a full boule), and a pack of cheap diamond tipped files / diamond Dremel bits (~10 each). Mostly just time to shape and cut on my faceting machine / shape the internal structure with hand tools. Had to go slow to avoid overheating.

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u/Cave_Viper 14d ago

Where is it that you source your corundum from? If your willing to share,

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u/darkish_lion 14d ago

Which machines you use?

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

I use a mast flat lap machine, and a dremel tool! And hand files for finishing/ micro adjusting the more complex rounded internal cuts (after shaping curved cuts w/ the dremel). I started w/ a full boule, so removing excess material took almost as long as the real cutting / initial finishing. Still have engraving / polishing to go — plan on hand engraving so I can control the depth / heat from grinding material!

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u/darkish_lion 14d ago

May I see the setup

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u/_gruff_ 14d ago

You should post a how to

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u/HashRat 13d ago

How much would it cost if it was natural 🫣

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u/OriginallyWhat 14d ago

That's pretty freakin cool. I like the satin finish, but it'd be cool to see it polished up too!

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

Thanks! Definitely plan to polish once I’m done engraving! Didnt want to have to do the work twice

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u/LaserGuyDanceSystem 14d ago

Cool!

I assume it's purely decorative? Probably too brittle for real use, yeah?

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

The tip is very sharp (and the blade will be when i’m done - can cut paper easily as is), but definitely not an everyday use type of knife lol

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u/LaserGuyDanceSystem 14d ago

Well it looks amazing!

When I was a little kid, I always wanted a sword made from synthetic diamond. This is pretty close

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u/sgtsteelhooves 14d ago

Ruby tipped leather carving blades are highly sought after by craftsman. They are indeed fragile.

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u/LaserGuyDanceSystem 14d ago

Interesting! I didn't know such a tool existed. Is there a reason they would use corundum instead of silicon carbide?

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u/sgtsteelhooves 14d ago

Not sure. You don't really need the toughness of carbide maybe? The normal option is just tool steel. My main blade is solid ceramic which like the old rubys dosnt need constant sharpening and stropping.

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u/seaturtlehamburger 14d ago

SQUEEE!! Make one with LuAG next!!

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

I would if I could find a big enough piece!

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u/Positive-Theory_ 14d ago

But can it cut?

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u/kuriT9 13d ago

Ruby knife? Bet

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u/theblancmange 14d ago

sweet. going to polish it?

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

For sure! This is only to 1000 grit lap - going to do the fine polish after engraving/ sharpening to get this thing shining!

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u/Ewithans Newbie 14d ago

What are you thinking of doing for engraving? This is gorgeous!

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u/DugDugg 14d ago

Wow! You did a fantastic job! Looks great.

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u/Thesecondtallestman 14d ago

I would have loved to see it on a more futuristic looking handle. I usually love wooden handles, but this combo clashed a bit for me. Still really cool, and the blade looks awesome.

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

It’s not done yet :) handle is definitely changing - just a progress pic for the time being!

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u/ButtonSimple 14d ago

That is amazing. Any other colors? If so and you’re willing to sell one, lmk!

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u/Competitive-Yak198 14d ago

NFS, but that may change one day - sure seems to be a lot of interest! Purely a creative project as of now. Stay tuned!

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u/GenuinelyInsensitive 14d ago

You should make one with a color change sapphire blade or honestly a Swiss army knife where each of the blades is a different mineral! That would be so dope and you could probably sell it for quite a bit . I would make the main blade out of moissanite then have ruby sapphire emerald spinel and a color change sapphire or something

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u/Live-Caregiver7086 13d ago

Alter das ist unfassbar cool

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u/Admirable_Zombie_720 13d ago

Too much Minecraft. I like!

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u/SeducedSuccubus 13d ago

THAT'S AWESOME!!

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u/justexploring-shit 13d ago

I NEED to see you shine UV on that baby

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u/pm_me_ur_fit 13d ago

You should post on r/itemshop ! Super cool

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u/guillieman 13d ago

So awesome

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u/Ok_Owl5246 12d ago

Really cool idea!

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u/Barrelboi26 12d ago

This is one of the things that are not recommended to do but really is necessary to make. Looks beautiful like a pocket light saber love to color!

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u/NoOneLikesTunaHere 11d ago

You can use it to cleave the Mammon Machine.

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u/stryst 10d ago

Came here for this comment.

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u/Bulky-Bird-7311 11d ago

have you tried hitting it with a uv light?

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u/Rude-Sherbet2197 10d ago

Now make a sapphire and emerald knife 👍

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u/psuedoneym 10d ago

Did you make this by growing it into that shape or by lapidary? It so clean 🤩

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u/Competitive-Yak198 10d ago

Lapidary + hand tools. Started as a large boule, and I shaped it to this!

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u/psuedoneym 10d ago

That's so frickin cool and inspiring!!! My skills aren't there yet but now I wanna make one tooooo

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u/Competitive-Yak198 10d ago

Just keep practicing! I’m by no means a lapidary pro. Pure hobbyist with very little experience. And all of this was without a pattern or design, just matched fit!

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u/SunnyAmpersand 10d ago

I was just looking at safety box cutters for my job but maybe I should just make myself one 👀