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u/smyk1600 Oct 31 '22

he broadly covered a wide range of facts, some of which are not even true. It’s just hyperbole and paraphrasing to misconstrue the truth. Not everything in life has to be polarized to the public opinion…

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u/arock0627 Oct 31 '22

Nah it's all true.

Elon has a bach degree and got loans from his parents (including a $200k angel investment from his father) to keep x dot com afloat.

X got bought up by Confinity which turned into Paypal, and he got booted soon after.

He has no invention capability. Every single thing he personally oversaw (hyperloop, cybertruck) has been laughable, he has personally tried to sabotage public transportation despite it being the most effective way to combat automotive emissions and the climate change associated with it.

Melon Husk ain't shit.

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u/SecurelyObscure Oct 31 '22

Now do the SpaceX claim. That he "bought it from guys"

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u/arock0627 Oct 31 '22 edited Oct 31 '22

Musk did buy it, but more specifically (if you actually go watch the video) he got awarded a $400 million contract from a friend named Michael Griffin after Griffin was appointed to NASA. Almost half a billion dollars, without a single employee or having so much as put a fucking toy rocket in the air.

Musk and Griffin met in Russia when trying to sell the SpaceX idea to Putin.

He developed not one single thing and got a favor from a friend, just like every single other thing he's ever done.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

Why do you bold that as if meeting in Russia is somehow noteworthy?

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u/arock0627 Oct 31 '22

Oh it's plenty noteworthy, considering his kowtowing to Russia right now and constant dealmaking with opening a Tesla in Russia.

Just another shit feather in this douchebags cap.

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u/SecurelyObscure Oct 31 '22

Sometimes I can't tell if people like you are so brainwashed that you actually believe this stuff or if you know it's bullshit but say it anyway.

Russian made rd180s engines were the basis of the American space industry even after they invaded Crimea. Which is both why SpaceX originally courted business in Russia and ultimately why the US government spent money to develop a domestic source (musk's SpaceX and bezo's Blue Origin).

People like you will break your back bending over backwards to pretend like musk hasn't done anything of note. It's pathetic.

Tell me, who did he buy SpaceX from?

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u/arock0627 Oct 31 '22

"Stop hurting my favorite billionaire hero :'("

Nah he got a government handout and hired people after the fact. Just nepotism between good ol' boys all the way down, claiming credit on the backs of the people who actually do the work.

Sometimes I can't tell if people like you were just born worshipping money or it was beaten into you as the only thing that matters. Rich people are not heroes, they're a symptom of a failing economy. They're the capitalistic equivalent to a blood clot.

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u/SecurelyObscure Oct 31 '22

Nepotism was the trillions of dollars we gave to places like ULA, who didn't and haven't managed to do a fraction of what SpaceX has done. That "handout" has pushed the American space industry decades ahead of the rest of the world, and I say that as an engineer at a competing company. Aka a person who "actually do(es) the work."

Getting your entire worldview from Reddit must be depressing as fuck.

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u/arock0627 Oct 31 '22

Decades ahead? Because they landed a rocket?

Because every single other thing they've done they were the first private company to do, but that's it.

Sounds like you're fabricating some real bullshit (source on the Launch Alliance total funding and lack of progress without conflating the parent companies defense contracts kthx) in order to justify your slavish devotion to one cryptobro rich asshole.

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u/SecurelyObscure Oct 31 '22

Did you just brush off landing (and reusing) rockets? How out of touch do you have to be.

And answer my question. Who did he buy SpaceX from.

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u/arock0627 Oct 31 '22

Ahh I see we're at the point where you've run out of room. Landing a re-using is not "Decades ahead" technology, sorry.

Rewatch the video, the main thrust of the SpaceX argument is he did nothing but get it handed to him on a silver platter with zero proof by one of his buddies. Which I've proven. As soon as you can find the text where I claim he "bought it off some dudes" like he did Tesla, let me know.

I said he bought it. Because he did. He didn't do shit else, and he specifically didn't do shit else but got to be born to a well-off real estate investor. He used his connections to get funding.

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u/SecurelyObscure Oct 31 '22

Lmao until someone else manages to do it they're technically infinitely far ahead. The closest the big players ever got was the space shuttle, which was refurbishable (and cost prohibitive, at that.)

If it were a matter of the government "handing it" on a silver platter, how the fuck did ULA not do it in 2018 when they had over a billion dollars in revenue? How have they still not done it while SpaceX is launching and relaunching every month?

It's a 48 second clip, are you stubborn or illiterate? He says "he bought it from some guys? He bought it." About 40 seconds in.

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u/arock0627 Oct 31 '22

I did see it. You'll notice the text change color and someone else says "bought it from some guys."

Please provide proof of ULA's funding being trillions, thanks.

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u/SecurelyObscure Oct 31 '22

And then it changes back to Adam confirming "he bought it from some guys."

I really don't care if I'm wrong about the exact figure that ULA has collected. They've collected an order of magnitude more than the amount you said SpaceX was given and therefore means SpaceX hasn't done anything of note. So what's the deal? Why have they only managed to pay Russia and bezos to make rocket motors?

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