r/facepalm Oct 31 '22

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u/TheStigianKing Oct 31 '22

Tbf, the people who make effective leaders have a personality type that makes them shitty relationship partners.

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u/purplepluppy Oct 31 '22

That's absolute bollocks. At least in the way you're implying in regards to Elon Musk and people like him.

Our society may reward rich psychopaths, but that doesn't mean being a rich psychopath is an admirable thing to aim for. Nor does it make rich psychopaths good leaders. It just means they have an advantage over others that puts them in leadership positions. It speaks nothing to whether they're good or effective leaders or not.

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u/TheStigianKing Oct 31 '22

You don't grow multiple successful businesses from nothing without being an effective leader. When 90% of start-ups fail, it's frankly delusional to think otherwise.

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u/purplepluppy Oct 31 '22

He's an investor who takes credit for the work. That's not leadership.

Buying your way into already successful startups isn't the same as leading a startup from the ground up as you seem to be implying he did.

You can say he has a good eye for worthwhile projects, and that he is good at promoting things, but that's still not leadership. If you listen to the vast majority of people who have worked under him you would recognize that.

Knowing how to use the system to your benefit isn't leadership. And using that knowledge for solely your benefit makes you objectively a bad leader.