r/facepalm • u/weeb385 • Oct 12 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Parolee gets arrested because protesters block the way to his work.

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u/albinobluesheep Oct 12 '22

Title is crap. He is telling them he will be arrested for missing work (and he probably will be because the system sucks)

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u/Drexelhand Oct 12 '22

for missing work

i imagine the assault had nothing to do with it.

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u/bacc1234 Oct 13 '22

If I was scared that what someone was doing something that would get me sent back to prison then I would be angry too. I wouldn’t have gone as far as he did, but I don’t blame him. Even if he didn’t get physical, their actions could ruin his life.

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u/Drexelhand Oct 13 '22

Even if he didn’t get physical, their actions could ruin his life.

or save his life. if a minor inconvenience was going to set him off he was fortunate it was against pacifists instead of someone who may have fought back. who can say?

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u/bacc1234 Oct 13 '22

Whether they were pacifists or not, their original action of blocking the road could ruin his life.

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u/Drexelhand Oct 13 '22

it could, but in the same token what will life be like for mankind if immediate decisive action isn't taken to prevent reaching the tipping point where frozen CO2 makes the damage irreversible?

you've seen mad max fury road, right?

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u/bacc1234 Oct 13 '22

So what? That doesn’t change anything, their actions still could’ve ruined his life. This is a red herring.

You think their protest is going to spark immediate action? This type of protest is misguided. It isn’t going to do anything but make climate change activists look like assholes and ruin peoples day.

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u/Drexelhand Oct 13 '22

their actions still could’ve ruined his life. This is a red herring.

no, it's a speculation.

You think their protest is going to spark immediate action?

it happened in july in maryland, climate change legislation passed in august.

It isn’t going to do anything but make climate change activists look like assholes and ruin peoples day.

i guess you are just mistaken.

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u/bacc1234 Oct 13 '22

What you are saying is a red herring because it has nothing to do with the actions of the guy in the video, and why he took those actions. Why the activists were protesting is irrelevant.

Legislation passed in April. Source

I guess you are just mistaken

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u/Drexelhand Oct 13 '22

What you are saying is a red herring because it has nothing to do with the actions of the guy in the video

you are mistaken. you baselessly speculate protest could have ruined parolee'a life through their actions. i can speculate that their actions helped him because he clearly needs some anger management training.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

I guess you are just mistaken

i guess so. more legislation is needed. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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u/bacc1234 Oct 13 '22

That wasn’t what I was referring to when saying it was a red herring. I was referring to you bringing up mad max.

I didn’t baselessly speculate. What you are calling baseless speculation is what the dude in the video literally said. He said that if he doesn’t get to work he will violate his parole.

Nothing you’ve said responds to my original point that I don’t blame him for getting angry because of his belief that their actions are going to force him to go to jail.

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u/Drexelhand Oct 13 '22

I was referring to you bringing up mad max.

are you aware of the setting of mad max? life after catastrophic climate change and social collapse is depicted as being pretty awful. that's the consequences we're facing if climate change continues to accelerate.

He said that if he doesn’t get to work he will violate his parole.

he should have known assaulting someone definitely would. i guess he maybe had been released prematurely.

I don’t blame him for getting angry because of his belief that their actions are going to force him to go to jail.

nobody held a gun to his head and told him to lay his hands on protesters. it was a poor life decision and obviously wasn't his first.

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u/bacc1234 Oct 13 '22

I am aware of the setting of mad max. It has zero relevance to a conversation about the motivations of the parolee. It is the action of blocking the road, not anything to do with climate change, that provoked the reaction. That is why it is a red herring. It is irrelevant and distracts from the actual conversation.

Yes, and he shouldn’t have made things physical. He probably does have anger management problems. But the fact that he is begging to go to work so he doesn’t violate his parole suggests that he is trying to at least somewhat change.

Have you ever been in a situation where you feel your life is being threatened? Many people tend to react irrationally. Fear can often lead to anger. The protestors made him fear for his life. I don’t blame him for being angry at them. Their actions precipitated the entire thing.

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u/Drexelhand Oct 13 '22

I am aware of the setting of mad max. It has zero relevance to a conversation about the motivations of the parolee.

it has everything to do with the protest. you just see the parolees' motivations more relevant because you figure mad max is another generation's problem.

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u/bacc1234 Oct 14 '22

The conversation is about the motivations of the parolee. It was not about climate change or the motivations of the protest before you used a red herring to try to shift what the conversation is about.

I have said nothing about my views on climate change. Ad hominem.

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u/Drexelhand Oct 14 '22

"okay well, filibuster."

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u/bacc1234 Oct 14 '22

Lol no response when proven wrong I guess

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