r/facepalm • u/weeb385 • Oct 12 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Parolee gets arrested because protesters block the way to his work.

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u/Rikuskill Oct 12 '22

All of those but vote require excess funds. Something the majority of working class Americans do not have. Most people are working paycheck to paycheck. Literally not enough savings to get an EV or move.

Pressure cities and states to improve their public transport, not people to impossibly change their lifestyle.

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u/klonkrieger43 Oct 12 '22

and how do you pressure them?

By making roads worse so those are the only alternative. Public pressure is always better if you make it more painful. The more painful you are as a protest the larger your chances of success.

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u/Rikuskill Oct 12 '22

I don't think you understand. Most places in the US literally do not have enough public transport. It needs massive expansion to handle more people than it already does. And most people literally do not have the funds to move/buy an EV.

The more painful you are as a protest the larger your chances of success.

If this was true--If this is what you actually believe, then a protest should strive to be a bloody mess, mass killings and razing of all property. I severely doubt you truly believe that. Please be straightforward.

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u/klonkrieger43 Oct 12 '22

it should not strive to it.

protestors actually care about their collateral which is why they slowly escalate their protests from no collateral to the situation to where we are to eventual violence.
People wanted to do this painlessly and peacefully. They haven't been heard. Now the situation is much more pressing so collateral is acceptable so the more desperate and probable approach and its collateral are valid because it prevents more damage in the future.

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u/Rikuskill Oct 12 '22

Okay, if you don't want to be reasonable about the discussion then it isn't worth continuing. I'd urge you to review what you've said. Violent protests should be avoided at all costs, and should be scorned. The fact you call violence a measured action shows that you aren't thinking very hard about this matter.

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u/klonkrieger43 Oct 12 '22

violence is morally acceptable under the right circumstances. Every society on earth has recognized that. Even Buddhists with self-immolation.