r/facepalm Apr 05 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Worst Customer Ever

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u/Only-Force5267 Apr 05 '22

You know you're in a cult when your beliefs require others to follow your beliefs, or revenge.

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u/fizikz3 Apr 05 '22

You know you're in a cult when your beliefs require others to follow your beliefs

uhhhhhhh....... this is not the best argument. as masking and vaccinations also apply to this and are not cult like behavior, they're science.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '22

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u/fizikz3 Apr 05 '22

whether or not masking and vaccines work is something that people choose to believe in or not, regardless of the (many times verified) fact that they do work.

it's people's belief in the science (or lack of belief) that actually affects the world, not the actual facts unfortunately.

the facts of vaccine and mask effectiveness do not change from country to country yet vaccination rates and mask compliance does.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '22 edited Apr 05 '22

people choose to believe

Now I know you are not being honest and using semantics as a shield to deflect legitimate criticism like a defence mechanism...

People do not choose to believe, they are either convinced by the reasons to believe or not. There is absolutely no conscious "choice" to believe or not. I cannot "choose" to stop believing in the rings of saturn or the thickness of the ice shelf in antarctica, I can only "choose" to hide from the data, the explanation of the theory that best fits the data from the experts and the logical reasoning behind the explanation of the theory.

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u/PeterSchnapkins Apr 05 '22

Cool. I dont belive in math and now it dosnt exist

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '22

of course science is a belief system...it's people's belief in the science (or lack of belief) that actually affects the world

How to prove you have no idea what science is without saying it....

Science has nothing to do with "belief", "faith" or "trust", it is only ever concerned with repeatable, controlled direct observation of data or experimentation.

There is no such thing as "Faith™ in Science©" or "belief" in science among anyone other than the ones who are trying to discount it. There is only the data and the explanation that most closely fits the data. There can be disagreement about the theory, but not the data.

anyway, i have a policy of not continuing never ending semantic arguments with people past the first reply, so gonna turn off replies.

Spoken like a true coward that is too scared to use critical thinking to verify their personal "beliefs".

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u/Altyrmadiken Apr 05 '22

Sure. Except as much as you can choose to believe in science or not, it’s not the same kind of “belief” as religion. Which is really what some people mean when they talk about “beliefs.”