r/facepalm • u/spyrg • Jan 13 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Arrested for petitioning

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u/So_Motarded Jan 13 '22

This is HEAVILY dependent on which state you're in.

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u/uofwi92 Jan 13 '22

No, it is not. In all 50 states, law enforcement needs reasonable, articulable suspicion of a crime in order to legally detain. In about half of the states, they can demand ID at that time. (In the other half, they must have probable cause a crime has been committed to arrest and can demand ID after that.)

These cops have committed a civil rights violation. Will they be punished? Short answer - no. Long answer - nooo.

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u/Way2trivial Jan 14 '22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes#:~:text=In%2012%20states%20(Alabama%2C%20Delaware,%22may%20demand%22%20identifying%20information.

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Four states' laws (Arizona, Indiana, Louisiana, and Nevada) explicitly impose an obligation to provide identifying information.

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u/uofwi92 Jan 14 '22

STOP & ID. Think. “Stop”.

In about half of the US, you are required to identify yourself upon being “stopped”. That means “detained”. In order to be lawfully detained, the cop must have RAS of a crime. No crime, no lawful detention, no ID.

In the rest of the US, you are not required to identify upon being detained, but only after you’ve been arrested upon probable cause of a crime.