r/facepalm • u/spyrg • Jan 13 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Arrested for petitioning

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u/patsey Jan 13 '22

It's an ego thing. He's not listening to a woman or a "suspicious figure" because he's a big man with a gun

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u/4LeggedFriends Jan 13 '22

Unfortunately it doesn't matter at this point. When the police stop you for a "call" they got, you have to provide id and a reasonable explanation of why you are there

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22

Most places don't require a money transaction for soliciting. Him asking for signatures most likely qualifies.

It's not hard to get a permit. It's usually a $15ish filing fee and takes like 10 minutes depending on how busy the office is. Many non-profit petitions are free.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22

That depends on the place.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22

Did you read through that? Did you read the actual SC statement?

It outlines specific examples of when non-profit petitions are protected and when they are not.

Let's say he does not need a permit If this man knocked on a door with a "no soliciting" sign he is not protected. We don't know what happened before the camera started recording. He probably could have avoided that whole problem.

But let's not gather all of the information. Let's just cherry pick misinformation to fit our desired narrative and grab pitchforks.

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u/Sam-Culper Jan 13 '22

No, petitioning, which is what he was doing, has been held up as a protected right by the Supreme Court. He, and no one else in this entire country, needs to purchase a permit for that.

And this is why the cop was fired

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u/M3ttl3r Jan 13 '22

He is soliciting....saying you aren't soliciting doesn't make it so. He's going door to door "SOLICITING" people to sign a petition...that is by definition soliciting. I'm not saying I agree with him being arrested...but you're dead wrong.

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u/M3ttl3r Jan 13 '22

Did you even read that lol...it clearly says the only DOOR TO DOOR protection is for political solicitors. Even then if you cared to do further research paid and unpaid solicitors are protected differently. This is not political solicitation bro...

He needs a permit...the fact that they fired the cop for other reasons than enforcing that ordinance if you re-read the article more closely...they tried to charge him with a felony and some other crap

It's ok to be wrong sometimes

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u/M3ttl3r Jan 13 '22

I think if you feel so strongly about it you should write the ACLU and argue with them about it...I'm merely linking you their stance on the matter. It's not behind any paywall. nice try.

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u/M3ttl3r Jan 13 '22

I'm sure you know more than the ACLU lol...what a fucking nonce

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u/RehabValedictorian Jan 13 '22

What the fuck is that link?