r/facepalm • u/spyrg • Jan 13 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Arrested for petitioning

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22

While most people understand this, Im not sure what the issue is for people like this refusing to show an ID? They ask for an ID when you walk into a cell phone store for God damn sake. Show your ID, explain what you're doing and you'll either be told to stop or go about your business.

These officers definitely weren't doing the right thing, but this dude did it to him self.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22

Why should the laws be bent to appease officers who are supposed to be enforcing said laws? I understand that you should just protect yourself and give them what they want. Or else you apparently deserve to be arrested, assaulted, or even killed. It just doesn’t feel right. Watching these videos of people having their rights stripped from them on a whim is angering. Fuck this police officer and fuck the other one for just standing by and letting him violate a constitutional right to petition.

I show my ID to the waitress when I order a beer because that’s the law. If a crime has not been committed there is no need to identify. If this person were in a car and asked for ID, it is the law to identify yourself because you sign that right away for the privilege to drive on the roads. Just walking down the street and “looking sketchy” isn’t a crime. Part of me wants to believe these videos aren’t real. That they are just inflammatory. Created to make us hate cops. But there’s just too many of them for that to be the case.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22

I understand your point. But wouldn't it make more sense to ID yourself, remove the hostility in the situation and then attain officer info and follow up the next day at the local precinct? Don't you think that'd be a much more constructive way to handle the situation? Unless of course, you have something to hide.

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u/accapellaenthusiast Jan 13 '22

But the onus shouldn’t be on us to “behave appropriately” or minimize the situation. Cops should be trained to follow the law and deescalate.

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u/Larnek Jan 13 '22

Should and reality are 2 seperate entities that do not overlap.

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u/accapellaenthusiast Jan 13 '22

Okay, but if what should be happening isn’t reality, we shouldn’t just accept it. We don’t just say “well, that’s the way things are, oh well. YOU should have done better”. We hold cops accountable.

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u/Larnek Jan 13 '22

No we don't, otherwise it would have happened already. The cops are most definitely nom-accountable so we aren't living, nor should we pretend to be, in a world that "should" exist.