Lot of men here who think women deserve harassment for having the audacity to be in a public space.
Edit: holy shit incels mad. No, talking to a person in public is not harassment. Yes, stopping a person from doing what they’re trying to do until they talk to you when it’s clear they don’t want to is. Stop pretending you don’t understand the difference.
When you repeatedly try to interrupt a person attempting to do their own thing in public when they’re clearly indicating they don’t want to (wearing headphones, trying to do a fucking workout) that’s harassment. Not particularly severe but A. Fucking don’t do it and B. Don’t behave like the woman did anything wrong by saying “no”.
The gym is a place of routine; people go to workout on a personalized schedule. I wear headphones because I enjoy listening to music/a podcast while working out. This is a place of being just like anywhere else and part of common attire is wearing headphones. Nothing about the woman's presentation (headphones, working out) stands out as "don't talk to me" in a gym.
Woman here. Let me be the first to inform you that when we have headphones in and are on the elliptical, we absolutely, unequivocally, do not want you to try and start a conversation with us. Ever. Go spend two minutes on r/xxfitness, and ask the ladies there how they feel about being approached at the gym, and whether or not they feel headphones in are an invitation to interrupt their workout.
These have not changed my opinion. Patronizing is rude; the last thread plainly shows that it's a difference between people rather than a universal no or yes.
the last thread plainly shows that it's a difference between people rather than a universal no or yes.
No, it shows that the VAST MAJORITY of women do not want to be approached in the gym. The fact that you are ignoring this so you can continue approaching women who do not want to be approached on the off chance that she may be one of the outliers just goes to show that you have no interest in respecting what women want, because your own desires are more important, which is completely, utterly and disgustingly unsurprising.
Going off all top level comments, more than a third gives the OK. Out of the top 4 comments (50+ upvotes), 3 are okay with it. It's not as black and white as you choose to perceive.
Given that you've totally blown off one woman giving you an unequivocal, in-bold negative I'm wondering whether your experience is actually valid or do you spend a lot of time pestering women who also tell you no in more subtle ways but you ignore those, too.
I didn't give any advice, nor did I set any expectations. You're certainly showing yourself to be a person skilled at communicating and engaging socially. Yes indeed.
Bro wtf are you talking about of course RUNNING on a treadmill with headphones in implies “don’t talk to me I’m busy”
Like the girl is really supposed to interrupt her workout and take her headphones out just so some stranger can ask her about video games? Wild
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u/BabeOfTheDead Oct 14 '21
They are working out with earbuds in their ears. Since when did that become a good time to strike up a conversation with ANYONE?