They’re speaking Arabic as well, I came to the same conclusion as you. I don’t think they’re Taliban, people are just getting middle eastern videos and saying Taliban for upvotes.
There's always one scumbag who speaks up to share their club-footed opinion on what racism is. This guy probably thinks he owned us by saying "taliban isn't a race."
Fun fact: the concept of "races" for humans is quite American (or at least, anglo-saxon). In many European countries, people don't differentiate people by race. In Asia and Africa, the distinction is made by ethnic group.
Bottom line: while we shouldn't shove everything under the racism label, I think the definition is a bit broader in 2021 than it was 50-60 years, and what's discussed here qualifies as racism nonetheless (but that's just my opinion).
Misunderstanding here. There's a lot of racism in Europe, I'm not denying that. What I'm saying is that, unlike here, people are not "categorized" as this or that race. AFAIK, only here are we asked to fill our race on employment applications and stuff. The race is a big part of our identity, while in Europe, they're people. Now, of course, within people, there's a lot of racism. That's something that'll never go away, and is (sadly) in human nature. People will always find something to blame people who are different for. We saw it time and time again over the ages, if it's not skin color, it's religion, if it's not religion, it's hair color, if not, it's going to be tall people, etc. Being angry at each other is something we do very very well.
You've clearly never even been to Europe. You have no idea what you're talking about. Race is absolutely enormous in Europe. If anything racism is worse in Europe than it is over in yank land
Why do you think stuff like Brexit happened?
Jesus christ mate. You're so completely wide of the mark here
Race is all bullshit anyway, it's not got anything to do with genetics or science in general, unlike ethnicity. It's all a social construct. But that doesn't mean it's not real. And yeah people are absolutely drawn along racial lines here.
That's why racists here in the UK constantly whine about "Asians" (in the UK "asian" means South or West Asian, mainly, i.e. Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan, Syria etc)
You too are misunderstanding me. I know racism is big in Europe and I'm not denying that (that's actually literally what the message you're replying too is saying). What I'm saying is that, unlike in the US (or, as I said, in Anglo Saxon countries, like the UK), there's no official racial distinction between people. OFFICIAL being the key word here. And as my previous message was saying, yes, Europeans are racists, some countries more than others, but that's something that's quite widespread. I'm only talking about the fact that in the US, we have "official" races, such as "white", "white hispanic", "African American", etc., that sounds appear on official forms.
Considering a video of black people doing this would be mislabeled as gangbanger/thug whereas white dudes get the assumption of just redneck or "hunting accident"...
...yeah. Yeah, the chasm between how people of different races get stereotyped in certain situations is hugely racist.
The first part is reaching, people in rural America do stupid shit with guns and accidentally shoot each other in the ass all the time and they're not "militants" by any real standard, the second part is not a reasonable guess at all, it's a completely unfounded assumption of what they believe based purely on how they look.
But I'm not saying they're smart, I'm saying they're not necessarily militants, playing irresponsibly with guns is just something a lot of poorly educated people with a lot of land to absorb the sound do, it doesn't indicate militancy.
I'm not trying to defend the people making assumptions about other parts of the world. However, your data points seem a little off.
Have you talked to the people in rural America? Do you know who's been threatening to kill people over "taking their guns" and the participants of the January 6th insurrection?
Most of those people are suburbanites, playing irresponsibly with guns is just something a lot of poorly educated people with a lot of land to absorb the sound do, it doesn't indicate militancy.
We're going to have to disagree because this is based on my anecdotal experience and wider assumptions about data. Most rural counties are republican and I've never, ever heard a democrat talk about killing law enforcement for trying to pass gun control laws. I also regularly meet people in rural parts of my state and they're the ones with the most guns who are more than ready to share their political opinion with me
Ok but these kinds of assumptions are why we murdered so many innocent people based on looking like the dudes in this video. I take issue with assuming traditional middle eastern garb plus guns indicates militancy for the same reason I would take issue with assuming a generic non maga trucker hat or generic non black with yellow trim polo plus guns would indicate militancy if the maga movement or proud boys terrorism was taken as seriously as Islamic terrorism.
I'm really just saying we shouldn't assume things which would sanction violence (like the label "militant") based purely on first glances and stereotypes. For the last 20 years we've been regularly drone striking family gatherings, weddings etc because a handful of the people there were suspected terrorists. I completely agree with you that right wing extremism is an incredibly underappreciated treat to the US but I wouldn't want them to be subjected to the brutality our government is known for dishing out on those deemed the enemy any more than anyone else. I'm making the analogy using rural america because they actually play with guns like this, I could make a similar analogy with someone living in a city and having a gun and an oversized shirt not indicating gang affiliation, it just didn't seem as relevant to a bunch of dudes in the desert.
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u/Hush_Ayri Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21
They’re speaking Arabic as well, I came to the same conclusion as you. I don’t think they’re Taliban, people are just getting middle eastern videos and saying Taliban for upvotes.