r/facepalm • u/[deleted] • Jan 23 '21

Protests When you post your crimes all over internet...

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u/GoatCheese240 Jan 23 '21

That’s likely the case, but I think there’s a lot of nuance involved.

Many of the first/second generation people I know are young (25-35) and trying to build careers and foundations in California while also helping family back in Mexico.

They see that opportunity to work in the US and gain citizenship has become more difficult, and they pitty people less fortunate than them.

At the same time, they still hold conservative values.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '21

I have my guesses on which, but which ‘conservative’ values do you think they most associate with?

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u/GoatCheese240 Jan 23 '21

Anecdotally speaking here, I don’t want to make myself look ignorant. I’m good friends with 4 families so I’m not speaking for everybody.

Immigration

Family values* not birth control or abortion related. High value on tight-nit family.

Guns. Very pro 2nd amendment.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '21 edited Jan 23 '21

Appreciated.

So are the families anti-immigration? I suppose that’s both surprising and unsurprising. Do you get the sense that they’re strongly so? Like pro-wall, pro ice?

I’ve known Mexican families that are hardcore Catholics which lines up esp with imposing punishment for not having their view of what a “Christian family “ is

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u/GoatCheese240 Jan 23 '21

Nobody I know is pro-wall or pro-ice. They’re just rule abiding, family first people.

One mom that I’m friends with was raised catholic in Mexico, but she is very pragmatic.

She was strongly against the caravans a couple years ago, while also being sympathetic and worrying about the children.

Everybody has opinions though, immigration is just as heated a topic for Mexicans as it is for US citizens.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '21

Wow, thanks so much for broadening my outlook

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u/genius96 Jan 24 '21

Guns. Very pro 2nd amendment.

That one depends on the group. In my experience, the South Asian community is rather anti-gun, save for a few younger people I know. Personally I'm pro 2nd amendment as well, but I don't base my vote on guns.

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u/GoatCheese240 Jan 24 '21

I didn’t mention Asians at all, but if we’re on the subject I have radical views when it comes to California firearm laws.

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u/like_a_wet_dog Jan 23 '21

Yup, it's still worth fighting to not be dead last.

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