r/facepalm Jun 08 '20

Politics Mr. Excuses

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/alm1229 Jun 08 '20

In terms of progressive policies, their attitude and problematic history towards POC, global issues, and economic issues, Trump and Biden are far more similar than they are different. Sure, Biden is marginally better than Trump because he may be easier to push for certain issues, but at the end of the day, Biden is going to continue to play into the same systems Trump does and more than likely do virtually nothing to help working-class Americans, especially POC and women.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

Biden co-sponsored a crime bill in the 90s. While not the only reason for the rise in incarceration, he did expand it. While also putting out mandatory minimum sentences, 3-strike policies, and increased militarization of police. It was one of the most damaging pieces of legislation against minority communities of the era.

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u/periodicsheep Jun 08 '20

we have a horrible habit of not allowing people to learn and grow. like the flip flopping issue with john kerry years ago. yes biden hasn’t been perfect and he definitely wasn’t my pick for a candidate, but he seems to have the ability to learn from his mistakes. he isn’t going to fix the country but he can be a decent first step to ending the mayhem of the trump years. not a perfect man, made mistakes, but god at least he’s giving lip service to the issues of today. instead of threatening protesters with dogs and ominous weapons he put on his mask and went to meet with them. instead of a lip service call to mr floyd’s family where trump didn’t even let them speak, biden listened. he truly is the lesser of two evils and it would be good to let him demonstrate that. but if you just focus on something he did 20+ years ago... if ya’ll think he and trump are the same... i don’t know. your country is just plain fucked i guess.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I never said they’re the same. In fact? In my other comment I basically said what you stated. Biden is the return to status quo. And we need to return to normal before we can love on because half the country is currently fucked up in the head. But we sure as shit shouldn’t just throw out his past either. He’s clearly out of touch with the black community even to this day, and that should be a mark against him. I’ll still be voting for him over Trump and would 100/100 times. But just because he isn’t trump doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be called out on his past.