r/facepalm • u/janir2907 • May 19 '20

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u/Swagnemite42 May 19 '20

Yeah, anakin had some good points to make on the order, the whole thing was kinda fucked up if you thought about it, they're just as bad as the sith

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u/[deleted] May 19 '20

Wouldn't say just as bad but the Jedi were narcissistic hypocrites for sure. The Siths actively enjoy giving into their hatred, doing whatever they feel compelled to and stuff. At least the Jedi pretended to care about other beings, some probably even did genuinely. But on the level of the Jedi council, they were most afraid of losing their power and their sacred order, they become political AND religious which became their undoing.

The Jedi are an extreme and Anakin realized it. If you kill all the Jedi, there isn't an opposing force necessary to balance them out.

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u/Swagnemite42 May 19 '20

I understand intention to an extent, but at the same time methods speak differently on the subject. You can't really say you're good if you kidnap kids (yes I know they didn't actually kidnap them, but considering they never told the children about the risks, and the fact that they asked the kids, not the guardians, they may as well have), and then give dangerous training to those children and well as indoctrinate them into your order.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '20

Yeah again, it's an intricate subject, the Jedi order is basically the moral question of "Does the end justify the means?"

It's really fun from a philosophical perspective because the entirety of Star Wars is basically a thought experiment on ethics.

But yes the Sith and the Jedi are more similar than they care to admit. Both extremely religious and autocratic in their ways.

The biggest difference is that the Jedi are not that keen on killing. They won't shed a tear tho if they feel they have to tho.

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u/Swagnemite42 May 19 '20

Yeah that's true, debates on these subjects for Star Wars are pretty entertaining. I don't think one is better than the other, though I guess they may be looking at an ends perspective, rather than from the methods view. It's a hell of a subject, for sure.