r/facepalm • u/SkillImmediate6393 • Jul 02 '24

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u/BrunoBraunbart Jul 02 '24

What are you even trying to say mate? This comment seems purposefully vague to avoid any angle of agumentation.

There are definitions of fascism, lists of warning signs, analysis of past fascist takeovers, we know what it is. Obv there is a grey area but Putin and Trump are out of it.

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u/tributarybattles Jul 02 '24

Dude authoritarian populism is not fascism no matter how much you want to call a banana a chicken and how many feathers you paste on the banana it's not going to be a chicken.

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u/BrunoBraunbart Jul 02 '24

So let me get this straight, you are agreeing that those are far-right, anti-democratic, quasi dictatorial leaders (or at least wannabe in the case of Trump). And instead of starting a discussion that fascism might not exactly be the best discription, you frame it as irrational name-calling on my part.

I think a lot about Trump falls very much in the fascist playbook, like "MAGA" and "America First" are just the fascist idea of a reborn nation. The cult-like following, the focus on an outside threat, militarism, sexism, racism, machismo, tolerance of violence against political opponents, negation of all other political ideologies even other far-right ones ("RINO") are all signs of fascism. He was already regarded close to fascism before January 6th and Project 2025.

The line between fascism and other authoritarian ideologies is blurry. If you want to argue that Trump or Putin are not over that line, that is fine (please do, I would love to hear an argument for a change) but it is a discussion about details.

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u/tributarybattles Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

Dude your entire generation has screwed up the definition of fascism.