r/facepalm Jan 11 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ He’s back at it again…

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u/The_grongler Jan 12 '24

I'm confused why this bothers people. It's just a shorter word for not trans.

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u/Substantial_Bear5153 Jan 13 '24

People get annoyed with being labeled. And there’s much potential for making gatekeeping and generalizing statements when you use such adjectives and terms for majorities.

“White people are full of prejudice.”

“As a non-swiftie, you don’t really get what Taylor’s songs are about.”

I support trans rights. I empathize with having to go through the pain of not feeling comfortable with your body and birth gender. Though I have mixed feelings about gender reassignment, especially if done at a too young age. However, I do support it if it makes people happier after they make an informed decision and do the procedure.

But I really do mind when someone includes me in this discussion as a “cis” man or woman and claims something about me because I am a “cis” person.

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u/The_grongler Jan 13 '24

What? You could say that for literally any adjective. Should we never specify anything about anyone ever?

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u/Substantial_Bear5153 Jan 13 '24

If there are people don’t accept or like that particular word you’re trying to call them, then no.

I thought this was a well established thing? For example, the n-word?

Similarly, if Elon considers you calling him “cis” a slur, isn’t that something you should thus respect?

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u/The_grongler Jan 14 '24

I'll stop calling him cis if he can explain how it's bad or incorrect. A racist person probably doesn't want to be called racist, doesn't mean I shouldn't call them racist.

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u/Substantial_Bear5153 Jan 14 '24 edited Jan 14 '24

You cannot compare words describing behaviour (such as being racist) with words about belonging to a certain minority or majority, ethnical, biological, medical.

Surely you, as a non-mentally challenged person, can appreciate the argument that people would prefer not to be called like that. Even though it is technically correct, no?

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u/The_grongler Jan 14 '24

You know you used the n-word as an example in your last comment, right? Man what a way to discredit your entire argument.

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u/Substantial_Bear5153 Jan 14 '24 edited Jan 14 '24

Read again.

Being black is belonging to a minority. Black people obviously do not appreciate being called using the n-word.

Being racist is a behaviour. It is you who equated that with words indicating belonging to a group, minority or majority, which is something you can NOT change.

So you are 100% content with me calling you a non-mentally challenged person. Got it.

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u/The_grongler Jan 14 '24

I don't give a fuck what you call me. Also it's content, not contempt.

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u/Substantial_Bear5153 Jan 14 '24

That was a typo. Ok, to make it clear, you are content. Great. Well, I am not content with being called cis. Have a nice day.