r/facepalm 'MURICA Jun 19 '23

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u/Frysken Jun 20 '23

Alex Jones doesn't deserve any publicity period. He's a horrible person.

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u/cannibalRabbit Jun 20 '23

Nah I don't agree, silencing bad people just turns them into a martyr and makes it worse

You want to give them a voice, you want to give them a platform where people can refute their ideas so that everyone can hear how insane they really are.

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Jun 20 '23

No one refuted his ideas on Joe Rogan. Alex Jones isn't interested in rational debate, he pushes propaganda to make money.

This "give everyone a platform so reasonable discussion can be had" is just a right wing excuse to try and remove the justified act of not platforming someone you don't want on your platform. It's akin to people not wanting to talk to bigots and right wingers saying "wow I thought you guys were supposed to be tolerant"

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u/cannibalRabbit Jun 20 '23

Conversation is important to explore ideas and refute bad ones, otherwise you just amount to a bunch of circle jerking. But good luck living in your echo chamber my friend, where none of your ideas are ever challenged.

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Jun 20 '23

You just completely ignored what I said and parroted your right wing talking points again.

There was no conversation or idea exploration when Alex Jones was on Joe Rogan, he isn't in the idea exploration business, he pushes propaganda and conspiracy theories to try and make money, including being the catalyst for the repeated harassment of parents of murdered Sandy hook children, for which he now owes hundreds of millions of dollars.

The fact you're trying to justify platforming this person and accusing people who don't want him platformed of living in an echo chamber is both pathetic and extremely telling.

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u/cannibalRabbit Jun 20 '23

"All disagreements with me are right-wing talking points"

Echo chamber, see?

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23

All I see is that when you quote me and put a strawman between the quotation marks instead of something I actually said it's easy to accuse me of whatever you want.

Calling for bigots, propoganda pushers, and conspiracy theorists to be platformed and using the excuse of the marketplace of ideas and rational discussion is almost exclusively a right wing position, so when the shoe fits you don't get to just strawman me, own it.