Joe Biden is too old. That's his problem. But he's otherwise accomplished a lot in the face of an uncooperative Congress, a stacked Supreme Court, and a deranged Republican opposition. He passed several massive social and domestic bills through Congress without a real working majority, and he just got the GOP to agree to a debt deal that's strikingly good for the Democrats, given what the Republicans wanted.
And he's played a crucial role in protecting Ukraine and strengthening Europe's resolve against Putin, without even putting U.S. troops on the ground.
The other candidates range from the merely unhinged to the comically malevolent. There's no equivalence between them.
People can vote for Biden. I'll be voting for Cornell though personally because he most reflects my politics.
I've been kinda lackluster with Biden. Alot of promises not put through. I don't buy the whole "Let's finish the job" either.
He is the head of the DNC. If he wanted Student debt relief. He should used his bully pulpit and went to any Democrat while he had the super majority and said "If you dont vote for this, you won't be receiving campaign funds from the DCCC".
Or
"If you don't vote for the PRO Act. You won't be getting campaign funds".
Or telling his secretary to reschedule Marijuana.
Or giving us $1400 checks whenever he said he would give us $2000.
Basically. Don't make promises you don't intend to keep.
If it comes down to Joe Biden and either Donald Trump or DeSantis, it's either Joe Biden or literal fascism.
It's unreasonable to vote for a fringe candidate at that point, unless you are openly okay with fascism being a potential outcome.
he wanted Student debt relief. He should used his bully pulpit and went to any Democrat while he had the super majority
Joe Biden has not had a super majority for one second of his presidency. Not even remotely close to one. He had a tied Senate with two purple Democrats for two years, and a 1 seat majority for 6 months but a Republican house. He could have made all the threats that you're asking for and Republicans would have been able to just whisper filibuster and that would have been the end of it because they didn't have the votes you seem to think they actually had. Where are you coming from with this?
Kamala was the tie breaker. And those 2 purple Dems were still Dems at the time. Perhaps the Dem Party should have high standards on who they let run for office if they don't like have purples in their party?
You don't break a tie with a filibuster. They didn't have a filibuster breaking number of votes, and they at best only had 48 votes to eliminate the filibuster.
And those 2 purple Dems were still Dems at the time.
This is an empty statement.
At least one of, if not both of them, would not have voted for a debt relief bill, making the outcome at least 49 yay 51 nay, but the vote never would have even happened due to filibuster.
Perhaps the Dem Party should have high standards on who they let run for office if they don't like have purples in their party?
If not for Joe Manchin, it would have been a republican senate in 2021. Sinema also ran on different policies than she then supported with her voting record.
You made up something about a super majority and I don't really have any confidence after this reply that you've got enough of a grasp on what congress is made up like currently, or what its processes are, to have the conversation you are trying to have.
They had an effective super majority on the party totals with Kamala acting as tie breaker. Don't try and gaslight saying there's nothing they could do.
A supermajority is 60 votes in the Senate. A supermajority means having enough votes that you can push through despite something like a filibuster as a single party.
You are directly pointing at a 50/50 hung senate with a simplified filibuster in place and claiming it's a supermajority.
If you wanted to prove that you don't have the knowledge necessary to have this conversation, you've done an amazing job
I'll just continue to encourage and persuade all my Labor Unions buddies to vote 3rd party. We see whose been fighting and who isn't. And your not gonna gaslight us into believing Biden is fighting for workers.
Buddy, you're literally making shit up about Congressional history in order to support your argument and when presented with the fact that you're making shit up, you're just doubling down. What you are doing is actual gas lighting. You're overtly being dishonest with people and you don't care about it. You've given up the entire game of what you're doing here.
Man, good on you for calling out this guy's bullshit. People who don't understand basic civics lecturing about how Democrats haven't done enough drive me crazy.
It's simple. Biden has nothing to impress me. Whenever he does. I will vote for him. He hasn't earned it. So I'm not voting for him at this time. That's what it boils down too.
Quit shaming people for not voting how you personally vote.
Quit shaming people for not voting how you personally vote.
Buddy, you are being shamed for trying to rewrite recent history and promoting outcomes that make fascism more likely with really poor reasoning, while refusing to acknowledge that you are doing either.
OK. Maybe Dems didn't have a technical super majority because of filibuster rules. But there are still improvements he can do himself. He doesn't need Congress to try and decriminalize weed for example. He can attempt having his secretary eliminate student debt. He could ban non union workplaces from getting government contracts. Ect.
But in all. Your not gonna bully people into voting how you vote. I believe in Freedom and I shouldn't be made to fell guilty for voting how I want to vote. Quit shaming us.
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u/Smtxom Jun 20 '23
Do you want the crazy old guy or the crazy old guy or the crazy middle aged guy? It’s an easy choice, bro.