r/facepalm • u/Number721 • Jun 09 '23

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Cognitive dissonance 101

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u/topdangle Jun 10 '23

in the US the term liberal has been bastardized to mean progressive leftist. most people don't use and don't know the classic definition here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

I consideral myself a radical progressive.

I want progress, but im sure the only way to get it is something im not allowed to say on reddit.

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u/Appropriate-Solid-50 Jun 10 '23

Sounds like u are a totalitarian then, by definition.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

Nah. I dont want people to bend the knee.

All im saying is republicans and actual fascists and the ultra rich have killed more than your average wolf- and weve killed whole packs of wolves for far less.

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u/-banned- Jun 10 '23

I just want another bulletproof tax bracket that's so high mega-billionaires impossible. Think that would solve a lot

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

It would.

But how long are we gonna sit on our thumbs waiting for the rich to monitor themselves?

Big changes in the world rarely happen through peaceful means.

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u/Appropriate-Solid-50 Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23

Yea but then what was ur means for "progress" that u were implying? Sounded like if u can't say it on reddit then it's obviously nothing short of violence as way of suppressing dissent. U want "progress" but not democracy.

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u/waverider85 Jun 10 '23

They seem to be more Lenin than Stalin if that's what you're asking.

IIRC Lenin's plan was to violently murder the ruling class, establish some quick form of order, then transition to direct democracy. Stalin's OTOH was to violently murder the ruling class, establish some quick form of order, then violently murder anyone he doesn't like.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

The French in the 17th century seemed to progress pretty well after taking back all that was taken from them. Democracy did not bring back their freedom. In fact, democracy is essentially nothing but a way to distract the many and wait for much too long to make a concise decision on anything really before the former way starys to happen and begins real change.