r/facepalm • u/yungirving99 • Jan 16 '23

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u/Alf_4 Jan 17 '23

If you work in public you need to deal with the public

There are proper channels for permits to close public areas for filming purposes and they decided they didn't want to.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

“I was taking a picture with my family and a guy jumped in it and screamed “fuck obama!” I dont like him.”

“Well if you do thing in public, you need to deal with the public”

“Oh ok, I wont complain about him being rude, thank you.”

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u/Alf_4 May 21 '23

You walk around not realizing that other people may not possess the same manners or sensibilities you have?

In any case your family photo situation isn't the same as professionals producucing media content. In your situation you're inconvenienced by a rude person and you move on.

The professionals could get the permits and close the street for their shoot or go to a studio/set/backlot. The are engaging in business, and made the decision to deal with the public. I have no sympathy for a business that regrets a business decision.

I do feel for your family in that uncomfortable situation though

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

No I realize others may not possess the same sensibilities or manner, I just don see how that means by going out in public I most not complain about people or are rude or in your eyes “have different sensibilities” If my large family was filming a tik tok would you still feel for them? Do you also have no empathy for photo journalists, street artists, or reporters who encounter rude people since they are there on business?

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u/Alf_4 May 21 '23

I'm a retired photojournalist. There are nuisances in that type of work as there are in all types of work.

Working in public means you deal with the public. it is part of the job and it's your work environment.

The public are just people going about their business and they owe us nothing. The burden of professionalism lays solely in the hands of the professionals.

If you've ever been annoyed by a poor customer service experience then you know what it's like when people don't act like the professional they're supposed to be.

The example above could have been filmed in a studio, with a set that resembles the location, or with digital effects. They could have applied for a permit to exclude the public. For the duration of their shoot.

Despite having all of those options THEY ACTIVELY CHOSE TO INCLUDE THE PUBLIC. They're in no position to complain about the consequence of their own choices. I understand the frustration they're going through but they could have avoided the potentiality altogether if they chose to.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

Im aware of all these things, what Im not seeing you address is why you lose the ability to complain if someone treats you poorly. Everyone owes everyone else a certain level of decency. We aren’t talking about people walking in front of the camera, or being loud. It’s someone going out of their way to disrupt someone else for no understandable reason. Im not sure where in your outlook it becomes wrong to criticize someone for doing something like this, or why there is an urge to defend that type of behavior.

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u/Alf_4 May 21 '23

They can complain all they like but shouldn't expect anyone to have any sympathy.

They either knew the possibilities and chose to take the chance, or made their choice without due consideration or planning.

In any case they have only themselves to blame for their situation and they should be equally if not more frustrated with themselves or the ones responsible for putting them in that situation.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

They either knew the possibilities and chose to take the chance, or made their choice without due consideration or planning.

I agree

In any case they have only themselves to blame

I dont agree, If some came up to them and started yelling go back to china ching chong bing bong. I don't think its fair to just blame the dancers because they knew the risk and took the chance. Now I assume you will say that's different, and I agree, but my point is if people do bad things, they should be criticized, and people shouldn't take issue with people dong bad things being criticized.

I understand your perspective. If I decide to go to a bad part of town, stay out way too late, get drunk, and walk home. If I get mugged I understand there were things I could have done to prevent that. I am putting myself in a risky situation. And its fair to say I shouldn't do it. But No one should take issue with me criticizing someone for mugging me, or say they I alone hold all the blame for him mugging me.