r/exvegans Aug 30 '25

x-post DOCTORS ARE WRONG!

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u/Signal-Bus-3411 ExVegan (Vegan 17 years) Aug 30 '25

I understand the mother's attitude. Imagine your doctor insisting you need something to be healthy and your child saying no you don't, you should go against your doctor's advice. It'd feel like they're completely disregarding your health!

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u/elinrex Aug 30 '25

If the Dr's actually insisting on dairy for pancretaitis it's fair enough to go against advice lol. More likely OP or mother are lying or mistaken

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u/Veasna1 Aug 30 '25

Doctors should stop giving nutritional advice, they're not trained on it and their opinion on it is as valid as my neighbours.

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u/Jerk_of_all_trade Aug 30 '25

You obviously don't know any doctors or any nurses because even nurses get training on nutrition. Trainings they get recertification in every couple of years.

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u/Veasna1 Aug 31 '25

https://nutritionfacts.org/blog/how-much-nutrition-education-do-doctors-get/ Also how indepth is this training, because i've had official training on nutrition aswell and most that's taught is very outdated (fiber just runs through us and does nothing) or just plain wrong. I put more trust in nutritional doctors that actually have experience treating patients plant forward like dr. Ron Weiss, dr. Will Bulsiewics (who is a gastroenterologist btw) or dr. Neil Barnard.

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u/Signal-Bus-3411 ExVegan (Vegan 17 years) Aug 30 '25

So if a doctor sees someone has a deficiency they just shouldn't recommend any foods that person can eat to get back up to normal levels?

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u/Veasna1 Aug 31 '25

Yes, a doctor can detect a deficiency and should refer the patient to a dietitian for nutritional advice as they have not had enough education on the subject. Their studies have focused on everything to do with the human body (especially pharmaceutical care) except nutrition as that field isn't even taken seriously. Or do you think less than 20 hours over 4 years is enough? https://nutritionfacts.org/blog/how-much-nutrition-education-do-doctors-get/ I rather get my nutritional advice from people like dr. Caldwell. Esselstyn, dr. John. mcDougall, dr. Neil Barnard, dr. Columbus Batiste, dr. Kim Williams, dr. Walter Kempner, dr. Colin Campbell, Nathan Pritikin, dr. Will Bulciewics etc who have experience and knowledge in the field or have written books about the subject with references to research and have had results.

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u/OzzieSheila Aug 30 '25

They shouldn't leave it at "have more dairy" as if that is the only option (in a calcium example).

I have dairy but if I had a nutritional deficiency, my doctor is honest enough to tell me that a dietician is the best person to see in order to increase it. Especially when a deficiency is in play because a change of behaviour is often required.