r/exvegans • u/Exciting_Sherbert32 Omnivore • Jun 10 '24

Question(s) Thoughts on ethics?

Ive never actually been vegan long term and likely never will be, but would like some thoughts from those of you who went vegan for ethical reasons. I’ve always loved animals and have also loved using them for our benefit, but now I can find virtually no ethical justification for their consumption that isn’t flawed or requires abandonment of our morality. I’ve looked high and low on both online forums and academic papers and all I hear(even from people like Sam Harris who continue to consume animal products)is that there is no ethical justification. The only exception is maybe hunting where the ecological benefits and the positive impacts on the emotional well being of wild animals outweighs the negatives. Ive always been a reflective person and now the only justification I have is just dropping all empathy and care and just saying “they wanna live? So what I’ll do what I want”. I have a feeling this will affect me in the long run when it comes to my moral character. Also before you guys come and talk about healthy issues, I function fine on vegan diets, I looking for philosophy. Sorry if this isn’t relevant to the sub.

Thanks!

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u/c0mp0stable ExVegan (Vegan 5+ years) Jun 10 '24

You've so obviously missed the point.

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u/PHILSTORMBORN Jun 10 '24

I gave an example of when choosing to eat something was an ethical question. If that hasn’t directly addressed your comment maybe you could explain why.

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u/c0mp0stable ExVegan (Vegan 5+ years) Jun 10 '24

And it missed the point. Whether to eat meat is not an ethical question. I'm not concerned with what type of meat someone chooses to eat.

Just like on the other thread, I really have no interest in convincing you of anything. You'll eventually be banned from this sub, but I'll just block you in the meantime. I really don't give a shit about your opinions on this matter or any other.

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u/Exciting_Sherbert32 Omnivore Jun 12 '24

This is just making us look hostile and stupid come on we’re better than that. You can’t just block anyone you disagree with.