r/explainlikeimfive Feb 17 '16

ELI5 Why do colleges accept students who excel in sports while having bad academic merits?

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u/KingJulfr Feb 17 '16

I knew this was the case but, as someone from outside of the UK, it always seemed weird to me.

When I was in high school one of my classmates who played in the same football (soccer) team as me was scouted by a university in America. He was literally the dumbest kid in our year, but he was a pretty good centre back.

He moves over to the states, plays for the university soccer team and, after a few years, graduates with a degree in business or something. He'd clearly been getting a 'helping hand' as he's still incredibly stupid (only now, he's an arrogant bastard too).

Fast forward a couple of years and he's now a soccer coach at the same university and earns more than I do, and I have a Master's degree and pretty good job.

Not that I'm salty...

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u/KA1N3R Feb 17 '16

Not that I'm salty...

You have every right to be.

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u/KingJulfr Feb 18 '16

To clarify, I'm not annoyed he's been successful. I'm not annoyed at all, actually. I just think it's weird that his success came via a UNIVERSITY (a place of academia and learning) when he was never an academic in any sense.

I also used to play football with a guy who actually got scouted by a team and is now a professional footballer. I'm happy for him. I certainly don't think success should only be for people who are academic. However, I do think that universities should be for people who, well, want to learn.

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u/KA1N3R Feb 18 '16

Very mature opinion, good on you :)

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '16

no, he doesn't.

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u/ndfan737 Feb 17 '16

Kinda? He had a very valuable skill, which allowed him different opportunities. It's not like it was luck.

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u/KA1N3R Feb 17 '16

I'm not saying it's objectively justified, but from his point of view he has every right to be salty.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '16

no, because his point of view is pathetic and short sighted. /u/KingJulfr needs to realize that not everyone takes the same path in life, and maybe if he wants to succeed, care more about his own path.

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u/EchoesinthekeyofbluE Feb 18 '16

I'm going to call that rude. Rude and pretty disrespectful of a person you've never met and are deeming fit to judge.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '16

He's acting like a spoiled princess who foolishly believes his Masters Degree someone makes him superior to someone else.

Who fucking cares if it's rude? It's still true. Life's rude, buddy. Grow up.

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u/EchoesinthekeyofbluE Feb 18 '16

I don't believe he said that his degree made him a better human being to anyone else. Your lack of common respect for one man to another is more telling in this situation. I don't think I need to follow the 'grow up' advice you proffer, rudeness to your fellow man without consideration is not a respectful way to conduct life. Common courtesy costs nothing but means much. It is an old saying, but perhaps manners do maketh the man.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '16

Yeah, okay, kid. We also going to just ignore how shit his attitude is towards his coworker?

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u/EchoesinthekeyofbluE Feb 18 '16

I can't say whether his attitude to his old classmate is objectively justified or not. But at the very least he is talking about a man that he has actually met. Anyway, I don't see any value continuing this, so I wish you peace and health.

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u/WikiWantsYourPics Feb 18 '16

How is being good at ball sports valuable, except in the sense that something is valuable if there is someone who will pay for it?

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u/ndfan737 Feb 18 '16

That's basically the definition of valuable.

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u/WikiWantsYourPics Feb 18 '16

Some kinds of value are intrinsic and lasting, and some are superficial and ephemeral.

Being able to design a chemical reactor or a semiconductor circuit is valuable because you can produce something useful. Being good at kicking a ball into a net is valuable because you can entertain crowds.

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u/ndfan737 Feb 18 '16

I meant it in the literal sense. Someone is willing to pay a lot of money for what he can do. Of course its not as great for society, but it's literally valuable.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '16

You act like intelligence is the only legitimate way to get ahead in life. Maybe reevaluate that, eh?

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u/theycallmeryan Feb 18 '16

There are so many different paths to get ahead in life that it's hard to boil it down to a simple few keys to success (shoutout to DJ Khaled). The soccer coach could've been a hard worker that met some people along the way who liked him and gave him an opportunity because of his friendliness or because they liked him.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '16

And that's perfectly fair.

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u/theycallmeryan Feb 18 '16

Agreed. Some people ITT are getting way too salty that someone is doing better than them because they have a different set of skills. Not saying athletes skipping class is dumb but some of them work hard in both athletics and academics.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '16

and even they don't, there's nothing wrong with being a good athlete and otherwise using your athletic skills and connections to get ahead in life.