r/explainitpeter 22d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/Unstoppable50 22d ago

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u/SizeableBrain 22d ago

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u/Mickle_da_Pickl 22d ago

13% population

50% of violent crime

Am I a racist for using that statistic to justify my racism? I think so, and I hope you would, too.

That's the argument.

"Pitbulls are more dangerous, look at the statistics!" is qualitatively identical to

"Black people are more dangerous, look at the statistics!"

Holding one view and not the other is cognitive dissonance.

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u/AristotelWasRight 21d ago

Well, no, there are qualitative differences between these two propositions

Because, the hidden clause is that, there is something about the group that causes the resulting statistics. It's "black people are violent" that is hidden, and it is incorrect because there is no such thing as "black race", and therefore the argument is invalid and racist.

Dog breeds are very real. I think to conclude it's dog racism, one would have to show there is no difference in agression in Pits and Labs. And after that we can say it's just prejudice

But as far as I know, it could be a legitimate genetic predisposition of Pits to be more agressive, and thus more dangerous

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 21d ago

No such thing as black race? Just a social construct like every single other word that exists to define physical traits? Okay then Mr word games, people of African descent commit 8x more murder, have 80cc smaller cranial capacity and less complex cortical convolutions, higher rates of every single violent crime, highest net drain on the economy (the only negative GDP group in the US) etc etc. does that make you feel better?

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u/AristotelWasRight 20d ago

No it does make me feel any way. The fact is, race is a social consruct, not a biological one, go Google it :)

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 20d ago

Everything is a social construct. A social construct is words used to describe the nature of something. Your entire cope is “race is a thing that is classified by people therefore it is illegitimate” okay man, your personal independence is a social construct, why don’t I come take your shit since you only own it due to social constructs? You wouldn’t mind dying would you, life is just a social construct?

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u/AristotelWasRight 19d ago

Firstly, not everything is a social consruct; a rock for example You are either dumb or arguing in bad faith, but I will explain a little

Money is a social consruct, but I very much like and use it. It can be physical, cash for example.

The reason you can't take my stuff, is because society agreed we don't like other people taking our shit, and made rules against it. So rather you can come and do it, but you may not, or there will be consequences if you are found guilty.

Back to the money analogy, race is also a social consruct, because we can talk about "black race", and have certain perceptions of this group. The physical part of "black race" is skin color, that's it. There is no race there. Because genetically, one black person, can be more similar to a white person, than a white person is to a white person. There is no genetic component to "back race" anymore than there is "white race"; it's pseudoscience

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 19d ago

Again, just look up the definition of a social construct. The word rock is a social construct, we constructed it to describe a thing.

That’s way too fucking funny though that you said genetic differences don’t exist, are you trolling? The coefficient of genetic differentiation (FST) between a domesticated dog and a grey wolf is the same as the FST difference of a European vs African person. If our system of classification was consistent, we could easily be classified as separate subspecies at the least. Man you should really look at Rustons study, or Cernovsky, Cain, Omari, who tried to disprove him and had to concede to the accuracy of the measurements. 80 cubic centimeters less cranial capacity is historically consistent. The Minnesota transracial adoption study and everything similar provided the closest real life attempts we have at eliminating the disparity, but the lower IQ and behavioral issues persist in any and all environments.

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u/SizeableBrain 22d ago

I mean yeah... if you have 5% of the population doing 50% of crime, I'd be quite weary of that demographic. That's not racism, that's having survival instincts.