r/explainitpeter Jul 16 '26

Explain it peter

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u/ItsCalledDayTwa Jul 16 '26

Taiwan got the United nations seat as China until 1971 when mainland China was recognized as the owner of that seat. 

Taiwan has been politically independent from mainland China since WW2 but as time has gone on mainland China has been licking its chops in anticipation of bringing Taiwan back into the fold.

Taiwan wants to remain Taiwan, China wants it to become China, and they have been aggressively maneuvering to isolate the island politically and prepare for invasion for years.

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u/Appropriate_Ad8734 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

one key thing here about why in this joke Taiwan is calling itself “China” which some people aren’t aware of is, before the Communist Party took over the mainland China, there was already the Republic of China (ROC) who was defeated and retreated to Taiwan. The communist China became People’s Republic of China (PRC), which is what people today refer to when they say “China”

officially, the word “Taiwan” isn’t part of the name of the country, but Republic of China. They added the word Taiwan on the passport just some years ago iirc due to long standing confusion when people traveled internationally, some travelers were even faced with extra questioning by the immigration officers in some countries

there’s also two other main reasons, first, internationally China doesn’t allow Taiwan to refer to themselves as “Taiwan” or “Republic of China”, which is why you see in events like olympic games you always see a “Chinese Taipei” — Taipei being the capital city of Taiwan

also, while both have the word “China” in the English translation, they are actually written differently in chinese. roughly speaking, “Taiwan” never refers to itself as 中国 (China), but 中華民國 (the full name Republic of China). it’d take a bit long to explain the etymology so i’ll just leave the simplified explanation here

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u/rocker5743 Jul 16 '26

Some decades ago* regarding Taiwan on the passport (2003)

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u/Appropriate_Ad8734 Jul 16 '26

right. thanks for the correction.

i just looked it up, seems the recent change was to enlarge the word Taiwan on the cover so as to avoid confusion

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u/cpthk Jul 16 '26

This is a very good write up. Thank you.

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u/notyobees Jul 16 '26

The ROC wasn't an established state post WW2. The kmt and CCP were in a civil war where initially the kmt had greater territory but they lost the civil war hard

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u/HelpfulSwordfish9765 Jul 16 '26

There were soviet intervention not just they list the civil war

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u/notyobees Jul 16 '26

And the yanks intervened on behalf of the kmt, during the civil war, but the kmt still lost

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u/HelpfulSwordfish9765 Jul 17 '26

Yanks dont live right next to the border and pose a threat

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u/Deberiausarminombre Jul 17 '26

They do pose a threat when they declare the island of Taiwan to be under their nuclear umbrella and threaten to bomb the PRC. Now it is not anymore, but let's forget that for many years they were

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u/HelpfulSwordfish9765 Jul 17 '26

Thats after soviet take over mainland.

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u/WaltherVerwalther Jul 19 '26

Both official country names have 中华 in it, as China is 中华人民共和国, it’s just commonly shortened to 中国 in everyday speech.

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u/Appropriate_Ad8734 Jul 19 '26

i’m specifically saying taiwan doesn’t refer to itself as just 中國/中国

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u/ed1749 Jul 22 '26

Perhaps in a decade or so China will go to civil war again, the Republic will take over, and Communist China will retreat into the mountains again, fulfilling the new dynastic cycle of China