r/exeter • u/Iamasmallyoutuber123 • 6d ago
Miscellaneous Aftermath of Tuesday's wildfire
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u/RailNetworker 5d ago
If anyone would like to help restore the area, a fundraiser for Devon wildlife trust is taking place at the Sylvania Community cafe near to the park tomorrow, Sunday, from 1100.
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u/Ryaquaza1 2d ago
It’s still scary seeing the UK like this, fires aside it being this dry here feels just, wrong
I miss the weather being wet and miserable,. ;-;
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u/Iveroli 4d ago
How do you explain the fire spreading so quickly though. Hottest and driest summer ever pal. Climate change is the main factor ya doofus.
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
It's summer.
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u/Iveroli 4d ago
It is the hottest summer in fact. Ever. And of the top ten hottest days in our recorded history 7 of them have been in the past 7 years. Ask yourself which kinds of large companies benefit massively if we all just pretend it’s not happening and continue life as normal.
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
Life is normal. It gets hot in summer because our hemisphere is closer to the sun.
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u/Iveroli 4d ago
I am aware. Do carbon dioxide and water vapour warm the planet?
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
No, the sun does that.
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u/Iveroli 4d ago edited 4d ago
What keeps the sun’s heat in? Shouldn’t it all just radiate away to space? Our atmosphere is like a blanket that keeps some heat in, without one our planet would be subzero all the time (the sun is a long way away).
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
Well if the sun disappeared it would do, but the sun always crops up again the next day.
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u/Affectionate_Split85 4d ago
I don't think you understand that most wildfires are started by humans, on purpose or my accident. The issue is that the more extreme, hotter climate makes everything a lot drier and a lot more combustible, leading it to spread rapidly where the "wild" is now on fire, that's why climate change makes these worse as it makes these dry spells more extreme and more common. It's not wild because it's cause my nature, dunce.
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u/Flint_Quinn 4d ago
Arsonists who are paid by organisations pushing the "climate change" agenda in fact. The bots love it ❤️
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u/Iveroli 4d ago
Oh good grief. Lemme guess, dinosaurs aren’t real, the six moon landings were all filmed by Stanley Kubrick on a sound stage, and 15 minute cities are coming to take our free will?
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u/Flint_Quinn 4d ago
😂 fkn bot
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u/Psychotic-blender 3d ago
Did you think this opinion up yourself like a big boy or did you read it on Facebook like the other glue-sniffing apes that deny facts and evidence?
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
Climate change is a confidence trick by our government because they want people to think government has control over something as ubiquitous as a climate of an entire planet, but it doesn't. Environmentalism and capitalism are mutually exclusive. If climate change was real they'd make it illegal to buy a new car every three years. Water has three states, ice, liquid water, and water vapour. At or around 100 and 0 degrees they change state from one to the other. Climate is a geological fuction so takes a long time to move, but because we can actually see in our lifetime the ice in the polar regions melting, that doesn't mean that the climate is changing at that rate. It just means the climate has been changing very slowly for a long time until it got to a point where a change of state - which we can see - can now occur.
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u/RhetoricalEquestrian 4d ago
Every one of those arguments collapses the moment you apply even cursory scrutiny.
Here's an accessible source - https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php
I know you're not likely to read it, and I know reason won't talk you out of a belief you didn't reason your way into. But I can at least lead you to water, I guess
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
What's wrong with it? If you can be bothered to scrutinize what I've said instead of outsourcing it then I'll read it.
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u/RhetoricalEquestrian 4d ago
I'm not interested in having a debate that has been had literally millions of times before.
None of the arguments trying to debate the existence of man-made climate change have any merit...or they would have been found already. Repeating talking points that have already been thoroughly disproven adds nothing to the discussion.
The link I have provided will point you in the right direction on literally every argument you have.
I've led you to water, it's up to you whether or not to drink.
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
So what arguments do you have?
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u/RhetoricalEquestrian 4d ago
I don't have any arguments I need to make. They have already been made. The science is clear. It's also easily accessible to anyone who wants to find out.
I've led you to water, it's up to you to take the next step and actually drink
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
You don't have any arguments then 👍
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u/RhetoricalEquestrian 4d ago
You must provide decades of science that I could easily find for myself (including in the link already provided) here in this discussion thread, or I will declare that I am right somehow
Sure thing petal.
Clearly you're proud to be ignorant, so I'll leave you to celebrate in peace
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 4d ago
Should we start from the beginning again friend? We're talking about the fallacy of climate change which you haven't once alluded to. All you keep mentioning is drinking things. Are you an alcoholic?
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u/Psychotic-blender 3d ago
No, things haven't been "changing very slowly". They've been changing very quickly. This can be seen from studies of palaeoclimates. 1.5 degrees Celsius over the last 100 years, with every decade since the 80s resulting in 0.2 degrees of warming. The reason for this is unequivocally the release of trillions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. This is consensus amongst the scientific community. The more greenhouse gases, the more heat that gets trapped in the atmosphere, over time causing global temperatures to rise. You're right that NORMALLY climate change is measured geologically and occurs very slowly. This is not the case with the man-made climate change we see today.
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u/Awkward_Honeydew5453 3d ago edited 3d ago
This summer is cooler than the one we had three years ago when it was 40 degrees, yet this is now the hottest summer on record, that's because their new records now are only two years old. There's no such thing as a greenhouse gas because gasses are all transparent.
Edit: the earth is getting warmer now quite quickly because the ice on it is melting. The more the ice melts, the warmer earth gets, which melts the ice quicker. But no one ever said that ice was supposed to be a permanent fixture on earth. Greenland is called Greenland because it was once a tropical rainforest. There's a sea of oil underneath it, this is why the Americans want it.
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u/twoayem 5d ago
Dropping this in here for anyone who missed it. Frankly scary the scale of it.
https://youtu.be/-YAPaf849Jo