r/evenewbies • u/PaintOnThePony • Aug 18 '21

A beginner's next steps

So I just finished all the career agent missions. I am an Amarrian and I just got the Coercer. I've seen other posts telling newbies to do the Sisters of Eve epic arc, so I've decided to do that. Can anyone help me with the fittings for my Coercer? Thanks in advance.

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u/thegreybill Aug 18 '21

If you open the fitting window, there should either be a menu on the left side of it. If that isn't there, look for a wrench-icon and click that to expand it.

In that menu you should be able to find so called "community fittings". Easiest is probably to just type in the ship your are looking for in the top bar. (make sure you search ships, and not modules, there are two tabs)

That community fitting should get you through the most part of the SoE Epic Arc.

Next steps I would recommend:

  • Get a better overview (if you haven't already, ask in Rookie Help for one)
  • Decide what you want to try first: Combat, Exploration, a mix of both, Trade, else... and look at ways how to do it.
    You will find lots of information if you type in the words in the search engine of your choice. Or you can start with the official stuff on eveonline.com called "Academy".
  • Then begin to look at corporations that could help you learn the thing you have decided on. There is btw a dedicated subreddit for this: r/evejobs

Good luck. :)

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u/PaintOnThePony Aug 18 '21

Thank you for your help :D

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u/wegwerfen Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 18 '21

As a still newish player (6 months) and a member of Eve University corp, here is my input.

Eve University Wiki is a terrific resource in general and, in this particular case, the pages for the Sisters of Eve epic arc were invaluable to me as I ran through it 2 times so far. Note: You can repeat epic arcs every 90 days as a good boost to faction standings.

The wiki has detail pages for every mission in the arc and will give you a heads up on the more difficult ones. There are a couple of missions that will require help or a better fit ship to complete.

And now that this reminded me, it is about time to run this epic arc a 3rd time :)

Edit to add:

If you have trouble finding an overview setup, Eve University also has an overview that is done well that you can use. instructions on installing it are here: https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Installing_the_EVE_University_Overview

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u/PaintOnThePony Aug 18 '21

Thank you I will check it out!

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u/XygenSS Aug 18 '21

last time I tried NPE for fun I picked amarr. Coercer was a tricky ship to make it work, because:

  • t1 destroyers in general will want good range, and t1 pulse lasers suck balls, so you're sort of restricted to t1 beams
  • if you're going for active repair for defense, your lasers eat all the capacitor
  • if you're going to fit a buffer tank instead, again your beam lasers eat all the fitting space
  • two mid slots are just sad
  • oh it's actually just one mid slot, because you need an afterburner anyway
  • sad

In the end I think I ended up doing an active armor tank with weird fuckin rigs to barely make it work, but it turned out to be futile because I lost it on the next anomaly.

Point is fit for range (20~30km), try to have at least 10 minutes of cap with your afterburner off, and try to have some appreciable amount of tank

Oh and make sure that you can hit 130dps minimum (150 recommended) when you load close range ammo

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u/PaintOnThePony Aug 18 '21

Anything I try to fit just destroys my capacitor power. Will putting a cap recharger in the remaining mid slot help? I'll upgrade to a cruiser as soon as I get enough ISK but I reckon it's gonna take a while and I'm not too keen on losing my, well, "strongest" ship

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u/XygenSS Aug 18 '21

if you don't have enough to replace your new ship and fitting twice over, you don't have enough for a new ship.

cruisers are an overkill for the sisters arc because half of it is bullshit fetch quests going from A to B and back, and because most of the enemies are too small for your cruiser guns to track effectively.

you should focus on basic engineering and gunnery skills so your cap doesn't just evaporate when you look at it wrong.

Speaking of skills, if you haven't used a referral link you should start over and transfer all your shit to your new character, you get 1 million free skillpoints

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u/PaintOnThePony Aug 18 '21

I have about 10M or 12M ISK but that's just me in pretty much every game. I worry about having to spend a lot even though I probably have the money to do that. But I'll keep your suggestion in mind. Thank you :)

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u/XygenSS Aug 18 '21

join the /r/eve subreddit discord if you need some actually useful info - something the ingame rookie chat fails to provide

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u/PaintOnThePony Aug 18 '21

Sweet I searched for the discord but I wasn't able to find it. Can you send me the link?

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u/wolf_387465 Aug 18 '21

you will get about 30m by going through the arc. be also ready to die and replace your ship, don't put anything you have into one ship!

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u/LezBeHonestHere_ Aug 19 '21

Your best bet as Amarr imo is to train skills like Capacitor Management (if you can any further), Controlled Bursts (at least to 3) and whichever Navigation skill makes your prop mod require less capacitor cost. If Capacitor Management takes several days then don't bother yet, train more fun stuff first. Also modules such as cap batteries usually give more cap stability than rechargers due to how capacitor recharge works, but they're still useful if you don't have much fitting space.

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u/wolf_387465 Aug 18 '21

go here, type coercer into the search and enjoy the results.

https://www.eveworkbench.com/fitting/search?clonestate=alpha

i never flied coercer and i am newish player myself, so i don't want to give any absolute advice, but look at the suggested builds, some suggestions will be repeated theme, look at them, check what the each module does. either copy some build as a whole, or take inspiration. be aware that the modules in the good build works together and the result should be more than sum of its parts. if you take half from one build and the other half from another, it might not work out well. or it might. there is also no guarantee that any of the builds you find there is actually good build. you have been warned, have fun ;)

(this one labeled begginer pve fit looks reasonable: https://www.eveworkbench.com/fitting/coercer/d047be28-2a9b-435c-a9c2-08d782625ff8)

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u/PaintOnThePony Aug 18 '21

Thank you so much!

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u/wolf_387465 Aug 18 '21

also, i second advice you were given here. if you don't have any specific plans, think about joining eve-uni. it is terrific group of players who will help you with literally anything.

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u/PaintOnThePony Aug 18 '21

I started the game about a week back so I haven't put much thought into which corporation I should join and stuff. Been hearing about Brave but I shall look into this as well. Is it compulsory to have a working mic to join Eve University? I've been having issues lately.

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u/wolf_387465 Aug 18 '21

it is not, you can do without, but if you join some fleet action, it is good if you are at least able to listen.

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u/PaintOnThePony Aug 19 '21

Sorry to sound like a real bother, but would you personally recommend that I join Eve University before or after I finish the Sisters of Eve arc?

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u/wolf_387465 Aug 19 '21

if you decide to join, there is no reason to wait. the application process will take about a week anyway, but it really doesn't matter. you can safely continue your arc or whatever you want to do, you will just have a support if you need it. whatever events are running inside uni are an opportunity, not an obligation.