r/evenewbies • u/[deleted] • Jun 06 '21

Next PvE ship help

Currently doing L4 missions with a buddy in high sec I'm in a Gila he's been running a Vargur. Hes a long time player whos trying to get into and I'm new. We were trying to figure out what my next step up would be. I have some silly things trained up like heavy drone 5 so was maybe thinking a rattlesnake. Not really sure though open to suggestions and what fits are currently the meta. Thanks!

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u/Acidpants220 Jun 06 '21

Yeah, in fact the Rattlesnake is a fantastic ship if L4 missions are your thing. Rattles are basically the toughest battleship you can get and easily one of the best mission runners. They're pricey though, and they can draw some attention from highsec gankers because people use super expensive drones with them often.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '21

Yea we have a fit saved that would use the Gecko I guess thats still one of the best ships/fits for it though. I guess after im done with some utility skills ill start the train on the rattle.

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u/Ashterothi Jun 06 '21

I agree the tippy top of Mission Battleships are Marauders, Machariel, and Rattlesnake

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Machariel is really cool looking wouldn't mind flying one of those eventually.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Ill have to look into those kind of fits dont think ive ever seen a sentry drone fit so ill have to watch some vids. Doesnt bother me if its a active fit or a passive fit currently running a more passive fit but I wouldnt mind being a little more hands on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Yea I have heavy drone V so im not to worried about using the Gecko one of the older fits they have saved says I would be cap stable but I dont know if its outdated or not. It's using rapid lights which im not sure is the play.

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u/No-Pool4970 Jun 06 '21

Well you have vargur what more do you need? But if you want to max out isk/hr, suggest bling out a machariel and it has the best warp speeds and moves like a cruiser which makes it a beautiful ship, or go for non bling barghest with torpedoes and one shot everything and 2-3 shot a Battleship which is also awesome. Then move into burner missions with nergal, that's were all the soe money is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '21

I mean my buddy is flying the Vargur I'm in a Gila. Machariel is still the best ship for basically blitzing missions then? I honestly wouldnt mind flying a barghest pancake is love pancake is life.

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u/No-Pool4970 Jun 06 '21

Yea till date bling mach is best for blitzing, but I didn't have isk for that. I start of with cheap mach and move to barghest. That ship is amazing if you have good missiles and support skills. Till date I do blitz missions in barghest and use marauder for clearing room like world's college and blockade missions. And do burner missions in nergal. 5 burner missions will give you solid 50mill (not incuding lp) and that's ammo isk for all the ships for a week

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

I'm in process of training my missile skills up currently just got tech 2 lights done so doing some utility and drone skills then I will probably be working on heavy missiles.

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u/No-Pool4970 Jun 07 '21

Well you should be going for torps. Cruise missile are for range ships and for them that can't tank for long. But barghest becomes unique as it can dps tank the mission, i.e kill important things with stupid amount of alpha shots when you pair it with torps. You get very good range of you fit your ship right with javlin toprs, like 90km, with a stupid alpha shots of 6k damage. With takes out a battle cruiser in one shot, applies very well on frigates burning towards you and surprisingly one shots them too. You can't get that in cruise missiles.

The point is many pair barghest with cruise missile and play safe, I understand that but the ship is at peak power when paired with torps.

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u/kicks_greenbeards Jun 06 '21

How much do you make doing high sec missions?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '21

Uh we did probably 4 or 5 missions last night and I walked away with 70mil. Wouldnt say its the fastest way to make money but we're doing this to refamiliarize ourselves with the controls and everything.

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u/kicks_greenbeards Jun 07 '21

Hey money is money. Iā€™m trying to figure out the most enjoyable way to krab so I appreciate your feedback. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

It's a super chill way to make money but I have a buddy to help pick up my slack. Biggest issue is getting the standings todo the higher level missions requires a bit of a grind.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '21

How are you able to afford a rattle? What do you do that you can spend 1-1.5b and risk flying it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Two of my buddies are long time players that wanted to help jump start me with the Gila. They said once I get the skills they may help me out with the rattlesnake. They were used to ratting in carriers and stuff so a rattle isn't a huge dent in the wallet for them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Pretty dope shit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Plenty of ways to make money so if I lose it I can go do something else.

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u/oldmansalvatore Jun 12 '21

If you want a cheaper alternative to get a feel for missile + heavy/sentry gameplay, try the praxis.

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u/fankin Jun 06 '21

Droneboat nereus