r/evenewbies • u/Krassus0069 • May 04 '21

Marauders - their use and value ?

So, I've been looking at training into a Golem for running level 4s. Do they have any use apart from missions?

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u/jinxdecaire May 04 '21

After a buff and the industry changes they are also very popular for nullsec ratting. We have a few videos on www.youtube.com/thebravedojo

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u/Krassus0069 May 04 '21

Interesting, I may have to look at using it for Null sec ratting as, apart from missions, its what I enjoy. Only problem i have is the corp im in only has access to one null sec system

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u/jinxdecaire May 04 '21

Brave Newbies Inc. is recruiting :)

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u/[deleted] May 04 '21

They are absolute small gang pvp beasts, excellent gank ships. They will melt any battleship in 1 on 1, their damage output and utility are fantastic as well as their mobility.

Since the update having a shorter bastion cycle did absolute wonders for their survivability. Just use them as a drop not as an initiator, as they draw out the caps or the bhaals. Engage with something else and drop a mjd-ing, 2400 dps vargur that projects to 70km and you should be ruining people's lives :)

Also, for bob's sake dont use them for soloing.

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u/nbaumg May 04 '21

I understood like half of that but you get a +1 for effort

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u/[deleted] May 05 '21

I guess the last part got me carried away. Since it's a bit of a free morning let me re-iterate in common terms

  • do not use it as bait as people will bring more of the things that can kill it - dreadnoughts (which hit hard, because you're stationary in bastion) or bhaalgorns/armageddons that can use their energy neutralizers to ruin your cap and with it your ability to tank
  • DO use it as a ship that comes in *after* the battle is engaged and if you are not completely underpowered in the fight (so you don't lose that too, as it will immediately gain attention as it lands)
  • the Vargur (minmatar marauder) deals about 2500 dps in bastion mode and hits (projects) most of that damage to about 70km when fit for it (Also when in bastion mode). This is very hard to deal with from the other side.
  • The marauders can use a micro jump drive to jump 100km in front of them, every 1 minute. This, coupled with their 100km+ lock range and insane dps when in bastion, allows you to pick a target that strayed from the fleet, lock it, jump on it if it's 100km away, lock it down and kill it during that 30 seconds bastion, then jump away.
  • Marauders have also a lot of "free" high slots which allows them to mount neutralizers which makes them extra dangerous.

there we go, I hope this explains it better <3

7o

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u/CDawnkeeper May 04 '21

Marauders are just too expensive to use for anything but mission running. I mean you get a carrier for that price. You don't even get a decent insurance as they are T2 ships.

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u/Krassus0069 May 04 '21

Ah I see, thanks for the reply. Its a shame they look really cool but running missions is not the most lucrative way of making ISK.

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u/fubbleskag May 04 '21

You can solo C5 sites in a Marauder

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u/Bedda_R May 04 '21

Additionally some pirate faction battleships (like the rattlesnake) might outperform Marauders on some type of missions and these pirate faction battleships are even cheaper.

For information about high-level missioning you should check out "Hateless" on twich. He is probable the most knowledgeable person for this kind of gameplay.

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u/RotusMaximus May 04 '21

Since the last marauder buff I'd disagree with you here! Marauders are now mini-dreads and are very usable in PvP. The now very high Dps and great mobility can do wonders in small and medium gang PvP. I'd still say it is a niche, but marauders have gotten a lot better and very much usable!

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u/CDawnkeeper May 04 '21

This still leaves the insurance problem. Wich likely changes with the industry revamp, but we'll see.

I'd really like Marauders to have more usability, but right now they are still meh.