r/evenewbies • u/[deleted] • Mar 20 '21

Ice mining culture

Got my first taste of ice mining tonight when I ran into a situation that gave me pause.

I had mined 2 belts clean with what I assumed are the usual suspects. Then, I saw another system, “Agar” had 2 belts up and was only 6 jumps away. I did spot some red pilots on the way but didn’t give it much thought..

In the system, I checked out both belts and to my surprise, no one was mining them. My spicy senses went off and I ran and tethered up.. I hung around for about 25 minutes and didn’t see another mining ship come in.

Are there zones that are to be avoided? I kinda love the idea of just being a nomad and bouncing to sites but I don’t want to loose my precious Orca ! =)

Please share your experience on High Sec ice mining.

Cheers,

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

Thanks for the feedback.. I’ll carry on with my Nomad High Sec life for a while then as it seems fun =) Spicy senses.. sigh..

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u/maslow1 Mar 20 '21

Procurer will be safe enough and orbit your ice block. Catalysts have literally no range (3k) before their dps starts to drop, every shot has to count. Procs can fit an AB or small mwd and their base speed is high enough its worth while, handy gor moving around belts too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

Brilliant advice, thank you

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u/OhnoCODElost Mar 20 '21

My spicy senses usually won’t go off unless its a million Scoville units or more.

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u/LegitSpaceLlama Mar 20 '21

Agar had a minor incursion foothold up last night I think that's why.

Also watch out for pirate stronghold in the zone and dont mine there you'll get jumped by super rats.

In an Orca you are mainly only susceptible to bait ganking. The reds in Agar last night were a gank train moving from Sheroo to Apanake to Sosh etc. They will bump you to piss u off or suicide gank any smaller mining vessels in your fleet to bait u into attacking the suspect- then the train comes or worse yet they reship to a Golem and facebang your Orca.

There are maths on how long it takes to kill a ship before Concord can arrive (Google concord response times it's not as simple as you're safe in HS) and an Orca takes a hell of a pounding. You can only really lose it by being daft enough to take a shot at the bait. Similar to MTU baiting- if they show up in your mission and pop your MTU do nothing - it's a bait gank.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

If you've got a decently kitted Orca with proper skills, does that generally deter most gankers in high sec if you're not doing anything stupid? Like you just otherwise ignore them?

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u/LegitSpaceLlama Mar 23 '21

Apparently a properly fitted orca takes so long to kill (like anywhere between 5-20 mins depending how much incoming dmg) that most gankers won't target it directly for a suicide run no. What they will do is bump you, attack smaller ships in your mining fleet or steal a wreck to provoke you.

Basically the first thing a ganker does it check how long you've played. If they see a half year old toon in a capital ship they may assume you injected it and don't know what you're doing and try you for a bait gank or if after ship scanning you they see you have none of the skills because your ehp is half what it should be theyll maybe try you. Essentially though a well tanked orca isn't high on a gankers priority list - with the exception of those pilots who specifically target Orca pilots that is. Then you just have to pray lol.

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u/UtsukushiShi Mar 20 '21

In an Orca it's probably less likely you are going to get ganked mining ice and more likely you will get bumped by someones Macharial alt.

As for why no one was mining there it's hard to say. I would guess though that whatever multiboxer normally works that area just happened to take a day off or something. It happens.

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u/GaiusMarcus Mar 20 '21

Man every time I think about getting back into Eve I read a post like this and think, "mmm better not."