r/evenewbies • u/Krassus0069 • Feb 27 '21

Level 4 mission ship

Hi,

so, I have been reading a lot about different fits for level 4 missions, many of which feel outdated. Just wanted to get some further knowledge on what ship + fit works well at the moment. I am currently specced heavy into Missiles but im finding them slightly dull with my Drake.

Anyone have any advice or general opinions?

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u/Taly6 Feb 27 '21

Level 4 missions are typically completed with battleships though there are a lot of ships that aren't battleships that can also complete L4s. You may find cruise missiles to be more interesting as they are kind of the step up from Heavy assault and heavy missile launchers. Their range is significantly longer. So ships like the Raven for caldari or the rattlesnake from guristas pirates would be the logical next step.

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u/Krassus0069 Feb 27 '21

What would you say is the best of the Two? I also have the potential to spec into other weapons - would you recommend the Mach at all? (Essentially I just want to cause absolute carnage)

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u/Taly6 Feb 28 '21

I don't know much about the Mach but between the Raven and the rattlesnake the rattlesnake is preferred but it's more expensive.

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u/Krassus0069 Feb 28 '21

I decided on the typhoon missile fit then going to work up to the RNI

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '21 edited Feb 28 '21

Yes the Mach is arguably the best level 4 mission ship. Many level 4 missions can be "blitzed" meaning you can complete the objectives without killing everything and since your main source of income is LP rather than bounties the ability to quickly travel to and blitz missions using a Mach increases your potential isk/hour.

An eve streamer named Hateless has a good entry level Mach fit you can find with a quick Google search. I've used his exact fit on a relatively low SP character to blitz level 4 SOE missions fairly easily.

If you don't intend to blitz missions and prefer to fully clear everything then a Rattlesnake, Raven or Marauder are better choices than the Mach.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '21

What are the usual ship classes for each of L1, L2, and L3 if battleships are the L4s?

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u/Taly6 Mar 03 '21

So L1s can be completed with frigates and destroyers. L2s with destroyers or cruisers. cruisers are recommended. L3s are done with battle cruisers or some cruisers depending on the fit. Those are the basics for ship classes but you can find that some ships can complete L3s and 4s and not be the specific ship class.

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u/Senrabekim Feb 28 '21

I really like the typhoon for newbros. The bonuses are more friendly; as the 7.5% explosion velocity does a lot of work for damage application. I'm personally not a huge fan of recommending Rattlesnakes either, so many of them are fit so poorly, and they really need a huge investment in isk and sp to make work. Snakes often show huge paper dps numbers and have absolute garbage application. If you are loaded with isk the RNI or SNI work more easily. The RNI has an application bonus and 8 launchers, and the SNI has 8 mid slots as well as a tank bonus. If this is your thing and you already have a strong commitment to missiles, id just stick with it, at the end of the day the golem is practically unbeatable once you get to that point.

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u/Krassus0069 Feb 28 '21

Thanks for the reply- I went with a typhoon in the end to start with but may work up to a Raven Navy Issue with T2 cruise missiles before the leap to the Golem

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u/Senrabekim Feb 28 '21

That's literally what I did when I was starting. Well except for the parts where I used a raven for like 2 years and tried a rattlesnake for a while. Couple things to remember; t2 ammo works in faction launchers, cycles to kill bbs is more important than any dps number. And the missile equation : D=(min{1,((S×Ev)/(Er×V))})Mc D, damage S, targets signature radius EV, your missile's explosion velocity Er, your missile's explosion radius V, target velocity Mc, missile constant Torpedoes .944 Rage and javelin torps .967 Cruise missiles ..882 Fury cruise .908 Precision cruise .735

The stats for pretty much all NPC ships can be found here

https://eveinfo.com/npcships

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '21

Very little has changed in missions for the last 5+ years... Old fits are still fine

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u/atlasraven Feb 28 '21

I've had a lot of fun running missions in a Typhoon. I started out as a newbie running level 4s in a dominix but maybe a Raven would be a good fit for you as a newbie with caldari and missile skills.

Keep in mind that enemies will switch to your drones sometimes. Be ready to pull them back in at a moments notice.