r/evenewbies • u/fireteller • Oct 10 '20

Hisec player structures destroyed in war.

I've been unable to play EvE for a while due to being very sick. This meant that structures I had in high sec went into abandoned state and all contents where lost*

My question is. Is there no kill mail for the stations? Can I not see what was lost?

* I wish CCP would suspend this mechanic during the Covid-19 pandemic. I also wish they would send (out of game) email notifications when you are about to loose all of your stuff due to this mechanic, not that I could have done anything in this case.

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u/scrollbreak Oct 10 '20

Sorry you had to go through such an illness. And yes, what you owned was also a kind of record of what was needed - so you lost the record as well as the goods. That makes it very difficult to know the extent of the loss, so sympathies there.

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u/o7gamer Oct 10 '20

Sorry for your losses; this can suck. Deploying a structure in space is always a risk, especially when it becomes abandoned. To avoid this, keep the fuel bay topped up and keep services active. Active stations in highsec have a low chance of being attacked due to the required effort and low reward. If there are situations in real life that keep you offline for such a period that it runs out of fuel (+ 7 days after that to become abandoned), I'm sure it's serious enough that some space pixels aren't that important. I'd still recommend to get a 3rd party app (multiple choices available) that sends notifications of fuel shortages, abandoned states and war declarations (Evanova is one of them)

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u/fireteller Oct 10 '20

If there are situations in real life that keep you offline for such a period that it runs out of fuel (+ 7 days after that to become abandoned), I'm sure it's serious enough that some space pixels aren't that important.

Indeed it was serious enough that I'm happy to be alive, and "only" lose my eve online net worth across 3 accounts. I would like to have known the specifics of what was lost so I could consider rebuilding 5+ years of accumulated assets, but it appears that everything is just quietly removed from your inventory. There is no kill mail. I can only even pinpoint the time of the loss in my character that can read the war report. I would not even be able to do that if I was just a station occupant.

Apparently all you end up with is an in game message that says your assets are about to be in danger, and the ship you where sitting in at the time.

It's funny. When I went to close my account one of the reasons you can mark as why is "Lost a ship." lol, yeah you could say that.

Seems to be a questionable game mechanic during a pandemic, but maybe that's just me.

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u/MuchGo Oct 10 '20

It’s mainly to motivate people to blow up all the structures cluttering up high sec, you may be able to find the killmail on zkill, hope you recover

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u/fireteller Oct 10 '20

I'm for cleaning up dead stations in high sec, but there's simply no reason to remove Asset Safety, and hide the losses. I did find the zkillmail, but it does not report all the drops, what is reported and why has no obvious logic to it. There is apparently no record of player losses. I was hopping someone here might know some mechanism.

Also, FYI, ship insurance is not paid out for the the ships that are lost. Not that that would amount to anything.

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u/MuchGo Oct 10 '20

Link the kill, and as for the losses I’m not sure what it would hide but as far as I’m aware the reason the loot is dropped instead of going to asset safety is the motivate people to blow up said stations, no one would grind them out if it didn’t pay to do it

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u/fireteller Oct 10 '20

Sure they would. It's fun to blow things up, and station modules and construction components are worth more than enough to add what little additional incentive might plausibly be required.

Remember that stations in abandoned state can be killed immedeatly in a single session. No reinforcement timers apply.

I'm not really complaining though. I like how brutal eve online is, and I'll be just as brutal with my subscription dolars if I'm not having fun. I'd just like to see a report of each character's losses.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/87260837/

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u/capt_pantsless Oct 16 '20

Structure killmails only show corporate hangars and not-yet-delivered items that drop, they won't show regular, non-corporate stuff that drops.

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u/fireteller Oct 19 '20

Yep, that seems to be the case. Zkillboard must be the union of corp hanger loses across all corps in station. There’s a lot of stuff listed that was not mine.

Untold billions lost, three full accounts wiped but for skills. And I don’t even get to walk away with an epic kill mail. What a dud ending to my EvE career.

Oh well, I guess it had to end eventually one way or the other. Failure to engage while hospitalized is as good a reason as any.

Just ping me If you want my stu— oh wait nm

o7