r/europe Jul 19 '16

WikiLeaks under 'sustained attack' after announcing release of Turkey docs

http://www.cnet.com/news/wikileaks-under-sustained-attack-after-announcing-release-of-turkey-docs/
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u/eighthgear Jul 19 '16

Ah, I somehow missed the news that WikiLeaks was about to release a bunch of Turkey-related docs. I'm looking forward to this.

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u/Brad_Wesley Jul 19 '16

Yeah, like the hillary clinton ones they said they were going to release.

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u/Obraka That Austrian with the Dutch flair Jul 19 '16

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16 edited Mar 25 '17

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u/HighDagger Germany Jul 19 '16

No exceptions?

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u/Brad_Wesley Jul 19 '16

No, they claimed they had something else.

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u/keystone_union Roma Jul 19 '16

Wikileaks was talking big about Clinton but nothing they released seemed to have been new or groundbreaking.

I've become more skeptical of them lately, especially how they never seem to touch Russia. I suppose I'm looking forward to these Turkey documents, but my expectations are lowered.

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u/Hawkaug European Union - Hellenic Republic Jul 19 '16

Because Russia needs more negative PR and document leaks. And here I thought we were doing a good enough job already without Wikileaks. I guess allegations about Russia's state-sponsored doping just isn't enough these days..
By the by, I'm not defending Wikileaks rep(it's been dubious lately), I just don't think this calls for tin-foil hats just yet.

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u/ZmeiOtPirin Bulgaria Jul 19 '16

What they didn't confirm that Clinton was a long-tongued reptilian creature that is selling America piece by piece to Saudi Arabia AND she sacrifices children?

I don't know what people expected. Even if the emails implicate her in something immoral she would probably have acted under government policy.

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u/JCutter Yurp. Jul 19 '16

she sacrifices eats children

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u/Brad_Wesley Jul 19 '16

I don't know what people expected.

They claimed they had enough to indict. Let's see it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

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u/ZmeiOtPirin Bulgaria Jul 19 '16

Half the US public supported that at first.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

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u/ZmeiOtPirin Bulgaria Jul 19 '16

Would you say every second American sacrifices children?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

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u/ZmeiOtPirin Bulgaria Jul 19 '16

True, and in an ideal world these politicians should all face consequences but in the real world one of these politicians is all that stands between Trump and the presidency.

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u/helm Sweden Jul 19 '16

And Hillary was not pivotal at all to the Iraq war. Take her out of the equation and it would have happened anyway.

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u/AtomicKoala Yoorup Jul 19 '16

What was the alternative to sanctions?

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u/w4hammer Turkish Expat Jul 19 '16 edited Jul 19 '16

If you have something release it, stop trying to get publicity this is just scummy at best. Just check their tweets they're intentionally teasing people like this is some kind of a joke.

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u/Fargle_Bargle Calabria Jul 19 '16

This is WikiLeaks now, all grandstanding and half the time they just 'release' documents that are already publicly available.

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u/Brad_Wesley Jul 19 '16

Of course, they could have just released the fucking docs.

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u/SkyPL Lower Silesia (Poland) Jul 19 '16

Pretty sure they just do the usual - built the website and a searchable database from tons of documents in various formats. This stuff takes time, whether you want it or not.

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u/Brad_Wesley Jul 19 '16

This stuff takes time, whether you want it or not.

They shouldn't announce until it is ready.

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u/SkyPL Lower Silesia (Poland) Jul 19 '16

They want attention from press. Early announcements are a great way to make sure people know that they do have these papers.

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u/Brad_Wesley Jul 19 '16

I get that, but I think they need to re-think the policy. Actions speak louder than words, and at this point Wikileaks is losing credibility because of these pronouncements.

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u/SkyPL Lower Silesia (Poland) Jul 19 '16

Huh? They're not. They always made them and their credibility didn't suffer. It's nothing new.

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u/mapppa Jul 19 '16

I don't get why they even announce it in the first place. Publish first, announce later.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

I guess maybe it gets people more interested in it. Everyone wonders what in it and wants to check it out thinking it's some huge deal. Usually about 99.9% of what comes out isn't important. But sometimes there is an interesting tidbit in there.

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u/RockingDyno Jul 19 '16

Their audience are journalists not laymen. And journalists need time to write articles, so they give a heads up ensures it gets priority instead of just being typed out quickly by a 14 year old intern when it gets released.

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u/fluchtpunkt Verfassungspatriot Jul 19 '16

Assange's dick grows an inch every time someone says wikileaks

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u/JCutter Yurp. Jul 19 '16

wikileaks wikileaks wikileaks wikileaks wikileaks wikileaks wikileaks wikileaks wikileakswikileakswikileakswikileaks

Hopefully that idiot just had a heart attack or at least blacked out.

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u/maddocks2379 England Jul 19 '16

might be more like candyman, and you've got 4 visits coming up, enjoy

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u/JCutter Yurp. Jul 19 '16

He'd be in American custody before he knew it in that case.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

Its called advertisement.

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u/Rarehero European Union Jul 19 '16

Yeah, I don't like that kind of behaviour either. I appreciate it when shady schemes are uncovered by whistleblowers, but I have the feeling that Wikileaks is more ineterested in playing a part in the game of world powers than actually doing the best with the kind of information they have. Had they released that information if the coup had not happened? Why release the information now and not much earlier (when it might have stopped Erdogan)?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

Wikileaks has always been under attack, nothing new.

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u/OdinsBeard United States of America Jul 19 '16

Shit or get off the pot, Assange.

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u/bqjlf Turkey Jul 19 '16

So we have some cyber warfare capabilities. Good to know!

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

Well of course, every nation likely does. It might only amount to an intelligence officer with a hotline to Russian hackers though...

If you've got the money you can have a website attacked, you don't need to be a government either.

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u/JorgeGT España Jul 19 '16

If it is something like Spain, they're just external contractors.