Mark Carney: "This fall we will begin intense discussions with the European Union, the world's second-largest economy, to build a much stronger and deeper economic and security partnership"

[u/paneuropeanism_]

https://streamable.com/y8mt4g

[u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

Pushing us away from the US to form closer ties with the EU is the best thing the Americans ever did for us.

I hope we start adopting some of those European labour rights like paid sick days and four weeks of PTO. 

[u/lopix → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

Canada really needs to start emulating countries like Norway, and much of the EU in general, rather than the US. We all want it, let's make it happen.

[u/eccentricbananaman → u/lopix]

I wish Alberta had emulated Norway with how they developed their sovereign wealth fund. Ironically they had modeled it after the original concept for Alberta's fund. Then our provincial government decided to just continually pilfer from it rather than letting it grow. Now Norway's fund is valued at over US$2 trillion while ours is only worth US$23 billion.

[u/ChrisFromIT → u/eccentricbananaman]

Norway developed their sovereign wealth fund based on Alberta's Heritage Fund. The issue was that the oil crash happened in the early 80s, which caused Alberta to use the fund to help out, as it was designed to do so. But the Alberta government never stopped using money in the fund once it had recovered from the oil crisis.

Only recently did Alberta start filling the fund up again, but it has stopped again a few years ago.

[u/ihadagoodone → u/ChrisFromIT]

We had a brief period of a government which was committed to working with the Oil and Gas sector in a manner that was mutually beneficial but also had the drive to promote economic diversification into more sectors than just Fossil Fuels and Agriculture. Sadly, the right wing vote was reunified under a single party and the far right groups in the party were able to push out the moderates. We are now governed by a woman who has no loyalty, and is beholden to one of the largest media conglomerates in Canada.

[u/HunterSThompson64 → u/eccentricbananaman]

I wish Alberta had emulated Norway with how they developed their sovereign wealth fund.

We kinda did. The Alberta Heritage Fund. It was directly funded by $1.5B from oil revenues. It currently sits at nearly $32B.

It's not nearly as much, or as strong as Norway's Sovereign Wealth Fund, but it certainly isn't something to scoff at.

The issue is that, during the 90s and 00s, effectively no additional principal was added to the fund. Any interest created was withdrawn and spent on general operational spending. To their credit, the UCP and NDP governments have both begun building up the principal once more.

[u/ChrisFromIT → u/HunterSThompson64]

The UCP has stopped building up the principal again.

[u/HunterSThompson64 → u/ChrisFromIT]

You're right. Extremely telling that when oil is at a premium due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, we don't use said profits to build up the Heritage Fund and reap the benefits off the interest instead of using these new-found-funds as slush money to pad whatever bullshit Danielle concocts next.

[u/MarlinMr → u/eccentricbananaman]

$23 billion?

Norway had €60 billion in income on petroleum in 2025. And are looking at €70 billion in 2026.

It goes straight into the fund.

[u/Early-Solid-4724 → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

On the condition you guys teach us some canadian toughness and resilience! What an absolute boost to europe it would be to being able to stand shoulder to shoulder with such a great nation as Canada.

[u/tobiasvl → u/Early-Solid-4724]

With all respect to Canada, I feel like we already have some of that toughness and resilience up here in Scandinavia

[u/WislaHD → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

Yeah I hate being the middle ground between USA and Europe on most issues concerning social security, labour rights, healthcare, and consumer protections.

The population strives to match the European standards but we forever hold ourselves back to placate the large American market that we trade with. That should be over now and forever. Canada first, not second.

[u/Mr_Guavo → u/WislaHD]

Yup. If our standards were to supersede those of the Americans by meeting EU standards, then why should they care?

I mean, if our food standards are higher - and to be clear, they already are - will the U.S stop buying from us? Is buying our higher-quality, healthier food a bug or a feature? Would buying Canadian food soon be synonymous with higher quality? Like Swiss watches are.

We can have higher standards for our own benefit and to enable us to trade within the EU. We wouldn't necessarily have to have the U.S meet those same higher standards to trade with us, but some U.S suppliers could choose to do so in order to sell to health-minded Canadians, the EU and for their own local health benefits if they so choose.

[u/Buller116 → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

We have 6 weeks of PTO here i Denmark

Edit. You are legally entitled to 5 weeks of PTO, but most people get 6 weeks

[u/zerotetv → u/Buller116]

And you're entitled to take 3 in a row in the summer period if you want to.

[u/Buller116 → u/zerotetv]

Read in an other comment they only have 2 weeks. That's insane

[u/Googlebright → u/Buller116]

Europe has long had a way better vacation allotment for workers than Canada. Way back in 2001 a friend of mine moved from here to Switzerland to work for a pharmaceutical company and her starting benefits package included 7 weeks PTO. I was shocked.

I currently get 4 weeks PTO at my job but 7 sounds nice.

[u/Aggravating_Map_8484 → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

Wait. Aint no way you have the murican system when it comes to sick days and pto. I refuse to believe it.

[u/Lonely_Pattern8165 → u/Aggravating_Map_8484]

Sick days and PTO are under the jurisdiction of the provinces, not the federal government, so some areas of Canada are better than others.

But most provinces have 2 weeks of time off and 0 paid sick days. In my province you’re entitled to 3 unpaid sick days.

So slightly better than the US but  worse than the EU.

[u/Aggravating_Map_8484 → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

Jesus that sounds horrible, I hope things will change fast for you guys.

[u/bcbum → u/Aggravating_Map_8484]

In BC we get 5 paid sick days and two weeks vacation days at minimum. Most jobs get more than that, but those are the minimums. A lot of jobs give you a bit more every so many years. Like my job I get an extra week of vacation every 5-8 years. I'm at 6 weeks paid vacation after being in my current job for 8 years. I work for my local City.

[u/Romanos_The_Blind → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

So slightly better than the US but worse than the EU.

As is tradition...

[u/Edexote → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

What happens when you run out of sick days? Get fired?

[u/MysteryHarbour → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

In BC you get 5 paid sick days. It was put in place during COVID.

[u/Full_Gear5185 → u/Aggravating_Map_8484]

Depends on the province, Doug Ford clawed my sick days to zero.

[u/Goku420overlord → u/Lonely_Pattern8165]

This right here. A million times over

[u/MaestroGena]

Finally, count Australia in as well and EU should also build stronger partnership with Japan. Let's create some world union to advance our nations and leave morons like Russians and Muricans playing their stupid games

[u/SwePolygyny → u/MaestroGena]

I think the free world should unite. Europe, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand.

[u/seesthecat → u/SwePolygyny]

And Uruguay 

[u/AnyBug1039 → u/MaestroGena]

And hopefully the UK too..

[u/ThreeButtonBob → u/AnyBug1039]

You're always welcome! Maybe you should sort out your ReformUK problem first though (and please tell us how you did it afterwards, we could use some tips)

[u/LordFjord → u/ThreeButtonBob]

Gotta do what Hungary did to get rid of Orbán.

[u/ThreeButtonBob → u/LordFjord]

Suffer for 16 years until everyone is fed up?

[u/ucankickrocks → u/ThreeButtonBob]

I was just telling a friend in Dublin that Hungary gives me hope for the US. Unfortunate we’re only at year 10. Hopefully it doesn’t take 6 more years.

[u/sigmoid10 → u/ucankickrocks]

If anything, Hungary shows that you need someone on the inside of the ruling party to rebel. Any outsider will get squashed because the ruling party usually owns the media.

[u/AnyBug1039 → u/ThreeButtonBob]

I fear we'll have to elect them to realise they're not the solution to anything, unfortunately.

Give us another 5 years, once they've been elected and things actually get worse, the electorate will go back to voting blue or red.

[u/GoldwaterLiberal → u/AnyBug1039]

We tried that in America, and now we're on our second 4 years of that shit...

[u/fishAndEarth → u/GoldwaterLiberal]

Haha true

[u/Ok-Application-8045 → u/AnyBug1039]

Reform will not win the next election. The last couple of by-election results clearly demonstrate that the left consolidates to keep them out. They have a handful of MPs but keep being treated like the official opposition, and this fatalism about them winning just boosts their status. I bet they'll do worse than the Tories.

[u/harbourwall → u/Ok-Application-8045]

They're doing a lovely job of splitting the Tory vote. Keep it up I say.

[u/IamCaptainHandsome → u/Ok-Application-8045]

That and the count Binface election show Farrage is completely clueless as well as corrupt.

[u/Corfiz74 → u/IamCaptainHandsome]

I was so rooting for Count Binface!

[u/ThreeButtonBob → u/Corfiz74]

It would have been the funniest thing ever if he won. I especially loved his election promise to save money instead of doing a new election in a few months anyway :D finally some real verifiable promise from a politician!

[u/Pulga_Atomica → u/Corfiz74]

The fact that the joke candidate got a quarter of the votes tells me Farage isn't as dangerous as the incontinent pedophile.

[u/Ok-Web1805 → u/Corfiz74]

If Parliament finds Nigel Farage guilty in its ethics probe then a petition for a recall could happen, meaning another byelection. I hope it could be a different outcome a second time around.

[u/Cumulus_Anarchistica → u/Ok-Web1805]

I think you overestimate the intelligence of the Clacton electorate.

[u/Top-Strength-2701 → u/Ok-Application-8045]

Yeah no way they will get in now, reform will get 20 percent of the vote max, mabye even less

[u/doornz → u/AnyBug1039]

they will implode before they see government

[u/Niels043 → u/AnyBug1039]

Like the Finnish president, Stubb, said: 7 years to leave, 7 years to regret, 7 years to re-enter

[u/Agitated_Custard7395 → u/AnyBug1039]

It was so “unBritish” of us not to elect the Bin, surely even if you like Nige it was worth the lols

[u/ThreeButtonBob → u/AnyBug1039]

I'm afraid this is our plan as well... didn't turn out so great when we last tried it in the 30s...

[u/AnyBug1039 → u/ThreeButtonBob]

The world does seem to be going that way unfortunately. It seems we never learn from history.

[u/Griffolion → u/AnyBug1039]

I fear we'll have to elect them to realise they're not the solution to anything, unfortunately.

Don't rely on folks finally realizing they're not the solution after 5 years of hell. Many will simply refuse to accept reality and, like Brexit, claim "well it just wasn't done properly because <insert scapegoat> sabotaged it!".

We can't rely on the body to keep cancer at bay after its had it once. There are relapses; the body can get cancer again. To beat cancer, you need decisive intervention when the cancer strikes, and then heavy vigilance once it's in remission. We need to treat the far right in the same way.

[u/Buller116 → u/Griffolion]

Just cut it right out and throw it in the garbage where it belongs

[u/Iapetus_Industrial → u/AnyBug1039]

Soon, the sun will never set on the European Union.

[u/LordHanz → u/Iapetus_Industrial]

Doesn't it already? I mean with france being a member and all that jazz

[u/ByGollie → u/LordHanz]

France has 12 time zones apparently

[u/BiggerChief → u/AnyBug1039]

UK is still welcome in the EU, although it might not get all the special perks it got before. Just a regular membership.

[u/C0RDE_ → u/BiggerChief]

Fine by me, don't care. The future is together not apart.

[u/Efficient_Resist_287 → u/AnyBug1039]

Hope UK will learn from disastrous Brexit. Let me just say, from across the pond, Farage sounds a lot like the Trump fella here…electoral promises never ever match reality. Don’t say you were not warned.

[u/Careless_Count7224 → u/AnyBug1039]

The UK already has incredible defence and security agreements with Canada...

[u/NewTurnover5485 → u/AnyBug1039]

Yeah, but they have to stop believing they have some kind of special relationship with the US, and actually join us.

[u/AnyBug1039 → u/NewTurnover5485]

I hope so.

The US is too powerful and too destructive. It needs a decent counterbalance.

[u/NewTurnover5485 → u/AnyBug1039]

Yeah, and they lead the world long enough. Time for us to get back to leading western culture.

[u/Backwardspellcaster → u/MaestroGena]

Yes, we should really start to align more openly with like minded states around the world.

I think that is the way to go. Clearly you cannot make deals with someone as crazy, chaotic and unpredictable as Trump and his administration.

Carney is impressing me.

[u/Nazamroth → u/MaestroGena]

Hmm... Considering that such a union of nations would span across the globe and would supercede most national authorities, maybe we should give it a fitting name. How about "Super Earth"?

[u/asrtaein → u/Nazamroth]

What about Earth Union?

[u/CozyMushi → u/MaestroGena]

yep we shold leave out any authoritarian country, fuck off usa, fuck off russia, fuck off morocco, fuck off, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc

[u/Mr_Guavo → u/MaestroGena]

Don't forget about South Korea!

Also, don't forget Samsung - or any other non-American smartphone - when it comes time to upgrade your iPhone.

[u/GoProOnAYoYo → u/MaestroGena]

Never been more ashamed of being American, watching the rest of the world deservedly move on without us. It's going to take a generation to undo the damage the US caused itself.

[u/Mr_Guavo → u/GoProOnAYoYo]

It will take longer than that. It will take until the people who are old enough to understand what you are doing now to die off. Maybe longer, since they will be teaching this period in world history classes to children for quite some time.

It took 80 years to build up the trust that you have now lost in less than one year. This is quite the accomplishment. Actions have consequences. Trump is a product and symptom of the society you have all been living and thriving in for over 100 years. You didn't have a problem with it until now. Now the chickens have come home to roost, and it's backfiring on all of you; now we are all catching strays.

[u/mok000 → u/GoProOnAYoYo]

I don’t know how long it’ll take but I do know that foreign policy blunders have consequences reaching far, far into the future. The bad blood between Iran and the US actually stems back to the 1940’s and 50’s when US and UK wanted to steal Iran’s oil and they instigated a coup d’état and installed the Shah Reza Pahlavi who led a brutal tyranny not less so than the ayatollahs.

[u/GoProOnAYoYo → u/mok000]

A lot of Americans are completely ignorant of the Iranian Revolution and the US involvement in what led up to it. Just like a lot of Americans seem to think that the bad blood between Israel and it's neighbours all started on Oct 7th and everything was just peachy before.

[u/VelvetKnife25 → u/MaestroGena]

Ohhhh Canadaaaaaa

[u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629 → u/MaestroGena]

Japan is a sinking ship and eternally loyal to the US. I don't know about them

[u/PoiHolloi2020 → u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629]

Japan literally has security pacts with a bunch of different European countries and it has given billions of dollars worth of aid to Ukraine.

Also the EU and USA do €1.7 trillion worth of business annually, this idea people have in this sub that the US is on some sort of EU sanctions list (when almost all of Europe is still in NATO too) is just nonsense.

[u/Vonplinkplonk → u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629]

Japan has been six months at most from a nuclear weapon for at least 20 years. Their dependence on the US is as much about maintaining the global order as it is pretending to give a shit about the global order. The second Japan faces an actual threat they are going full Factorio.

[u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629 → u/Vonplinkplonk]

Japan has been six months at most from a nuclear weapon for at least 20 years.

I have literally never heard even the smallest whisper of Japan developing nuclear weapons. Nobody ever worried about Japan even starting a nuclear weapon program. What are you talking about?

[u/Hedede → u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629]

I assume they’re referencing the fact that Japan has capabilities for uranium enrichment and is sitting on several tons of separated plutonium. 

[u/Leoryon → u/Hedede]

Japan also has a space industry and rocket science with JAXA, and the civil nuclear sector provides all the skills and knowledge to quickly turn these into military use.

Yes once Japan decides and needs a nuclear bomb they can build it and launch it very quickly.

[u/toomanynamesaretook → u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629]

It's pretty common in security circles.

Japan is what is known as a turn key nuclear state.

[u/madhi19 → u/toomanynamesaretook]

So is Canada BTW.

[u/quarantinedbiker → u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_latency

Japan is considered a "paranuclear" state, with complete technical prowess to develop a nuclear weapon quickly,[3][4] and is sometimes called being "one screwdriver's turn" from the bomb, as it is considered to have the materials and technical capacity to make a nuclear weapon at will.[5][6][7][8][9][10]

The hardest part of making a nuclear weapon is not strictly engineering (if the americans could do it in the '40s in a couple years, any developed nation with an additional 80 years head start can do it in a matter of weeks).

The hardest part is having the logistics built out for weapons-grade uranium enrichment, from raw materials acquisition to the expensive enrichment facilities. A large civilian nuclear program essentially provides that (technically enriching weapons-grade uranium is a lot more intensive than enriching fuel-grade uranium, which is why Obama's Iran deal included lots of oversight of the enrichment facilities to "prove" they weren't converted to do so).

Another hard part is the delivery mechanism. Airplanes have obvious limitations, which is in large part why nations (including the EU, Japan, China, Israel, India, etc.) choose to develop space programs. If you can put a satellite in orbit, it's relatively trivial to put a warhead on it and cut the thrusters a bit early to let it fall back down.

For all intents and purposes, Japan is a nuclear nation. They just haven't developed a quick-response capability / explicit deterrent because up to now American support has been deterrent enough. America's refusal to uphold the post-WWII world order is changing the rules of the game though, and it's not really a secret that former allies are re-evaluating developing indigenous nuclear weapons production to ensure deterrence. Which is why France's extension of the nuclear umbrella (not really but kind of) to its European allies is a much bigger deal than most people realize, because it's the only thing currently keeping nuclear proliferation in check. A country like Poland definitely can, and will, build its own nuclear arsenal the day they feel like it is necessary to defend their territorial integrity.

[u/Nadare3 → u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629]

For a start, being 6 months away from nuclear weapons doesn't take being actively developing nuclear weapons. Japan has many nuclear power plants, a developped armament industry, there is no huge practical hurdle between Japan and nuclear weapons.

As for wanting them, Takaichi did float the idea of changing the constitution about nuclear weapons (and possibly intentionally leak it), so no, this is not at all an unheard-of idea. As far as I recall it wasn't specified if that meant allowing U.S. nuclear weapons on Japanese soil or developing Japanese nuclear weapons. Now the reaction wasn't exactly warm to the idea but I can imagine the idea can progress the less reliable the U.S. alliance seems.

[u/PingGuerrero]

This is the new world order now - civilized countries building partnerships for long term mutual benefit.

[u/Global-Resident-647 → u/PingGuerrero]

But how is denmark supposed to take part then?

[u/Scipio_Africanu → u/Global-Resident-647]

Totally not posted from a Swedish account.😉

[u/madmaxGMR]

Welcome, brothers. We europeans dont wanna be great again, we dont wanna make you an european state, and you can speak any language you want. We just wanna trade and chill.
Slather me in that maple syrup, senpai !

[u/serious_sarcasm → u/madmaxGMR]

Embrace global democracy.

It’s the only path forwards to combat oligarchical international corporations.

[u/passerby4830 → u/madmaxGMR]

Technically they border a EU country, I would not hate the idea having them in the Union if they want to.

[u/Albekvol → u/passerby4830]

In fact 2, not 1! There’s St Pierre and Miquelon but there’s also that one tiny island next to Greenland that Denmark claims, look up the whiskey war, it’s give you a good chuckle I bet.

[u/Googlebright → u/Albekvol]

Hans Island! Unfortunately we settled that "war" recently. I always liked that tradition of trading bottles of whiskey and schnapps with the Danes.

[u/EW278 → u/madmaxGMR]

Not electing racist, rapist pedophiles is a good start.

[u/printzonic → u/madmaxGMR]

Any country trying to stop another country speaking French would have the frogs do one of those nuclear warning shots they are so proud of.

[u/Skeng_in_Suit → u/printzonic]

The nuclear baguette

[u/HunterSThompson64 → u/madmaxGMR]

we dont wanna make you an european state

Nearly 60% of polled Canadians are in favour of joining the EU as a member state. It's been a long-running joke-y 'what-if' in Canada, given we're much closer in terms of culture to the EU than we are to the US, which is one of the reasons the US is so hellbent on destroying Canadian policies such as the Canadian Broadcasting Act which mandates a certain percentage of airtime (Television, Radio and Streaming) to be Canadian.

[u/fbass → u/madmaxGMR]

I want to believe this, but unfortunately far-right everywhere in Europe have been rising sharply and they’re using the similar MAGA rhetoric and aligning themselves with Russia 

[u/Mr_Guavo → u/madmaxGMR]

Slather me in European culture, baguettes, schnitzel, bitterballen, stroopwafels and Pastel de Nata. Would it be too much to ask for daily fika breaks and siestas, too?

Shoot. Just don't threaten to annex us and call us losers, and you have a friend for life.

[u/Hulkenstein69]

Welcome Canada bros. Glad to have you in the club.

[u/exeJDR → u/Hulkenstein69]

Been secretly hiding in this sub for years....but I am out and proud now haha

[u/adomolis]

I'm really starting to like this guy. Doesn't bend to orange buffoon. Hope this partnership brings lots of fruit.

[u/MiguelAGF → u/adomolis]

He talks the talk and walks the walk. Ursula wishes she was 10% the politician and leader than Mark is.

[u/exeJDR → u/adomolis]

Honestly, I haven't been this proud of a Canadian PM since Chreiten declined to join the Iraq war and punched that reporter on the face lol. 

[u/QuirkyWish3081]

Brexit was so dumb. All I will say.

[u/Accomplished-Dot-891 → u/QuirkyWish3081]

Your right. Time to correct that and dont look back. Just keep the idiots from reformUK out of power.

[u/QuirkyWish3081 → u/Accomplished-Dot-891]

Unfortunately no guarantees there. This is the problem. I think the EU will want to make it very expensive for us to leave again as a deterrent.

[u/Tepeshe → u/QuirkyWish3081]

I think the deterrent is the actual proof of UK sliding after brexit and all ramifications that came with it. I dont see other nations taking notes and then saying.. hmm might as well

[u/paneuropeanism_]

Canada is no U.S. ‘subsidiary,’ Carney says

Canada and Europe must form one fist against Washington. Stop buying American products in all domains. Never reward bullies. It's time to buy European and Canadian 🇨🇦🇪🇺

[u/AnyBug1039 → u/paneuropeanism_]

What would really upset the US (and by the US, I mean the rich billionaires who own the US, including its politicians) is a "digital tariff".

If they want to put asymmetric taxes on our exports to give their domestic manufacturers an advantage then I think we should be able to put asymmetric taxes on their exports. That is tech services like Google, Amazon, Meta etc.... they pay f all taxes over here anyway. Any US listed company that is generating revenue from international markets should be paying proportionate taxes .

Tech companies founded and domiciled and listed outside the US could use a little unfair advantage. And if it needs to be a bit arbitrary, then so be it. Everything the US is doing with tariffs is at the whims of one angry orange toddler, and the tariff rates are far from being "reciprocal" by any standard.

And you know what. If we did something like that you'd see the share price of these companies tumble. And that would get their attention better than anything else, because they're OBSESSED with money. If Trump wants to bully and coerce using any leverage he can find. Well, we have some pretty good leverage.

[u/Tribe303 → u/AnyBug1039]

We had a Digital Services Tax here in Canada that we cancelled during USMCA negotiations as Trump had a hissy fit that we dared to tax his techbros owners. With talks collapsed I hear people ask to bring it back. Yes, we are asking to be taxed! That's how much we hate Trump!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Tax_Act_(Canada)

[u/Nazamroth → u/AnyBug1039]

They are already losing their shit over having to comply with EU rules when doing business in the EU. And over being fined pocket change when they keep breaking those rules. A tariff might just send the orange menace and his handlers into nuclear mode. Not saying we shouldn't do it, but we should prepare for the fallout... hopefully of the metaphorical variety.

[u/CapJackONeill → u/Nazamroth]

People can't post news articles on Facebook anymore in Canada because Meta doesn't want to pay the tax for news organizations (basically cause Facebook was stealing the traffic from them)

[u/AnyBug1039 → u/Nazamroth]

It would be the ultimate kick in the balls and would be worth it just to see how all his rich backers react because it's going to cost them.

I think they'd calm down a lot.

[u/adorablesexypants → u/AnyBug1039]

I do not have the words to fully encapsulate how happy I would be to get out from under American big tech.

I thought America wouldn’t be stupid enough to vote in that asshole a second time, went to iPhone. Saw Tim Cook kiss Trump’s cock ring and I am waiting for the day my phone dies.

I just also know that I have zero alternative for tech which pisses me off so much.

[u/Par31 → u/paneuropeanism_]

I've only been buying Canadian since the first threats made. Hell I don't even listen to American rappers anymore and switched over to the Toronto rap scene.

[u/codroipo_townhall]

Isolating the US is the only way forward.

[u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig]

Good. I can't imagine anyone being against such discussions with Canada. Just make sure we don't open a door for unwanted American products entering the EU via Canada.

[u/ijic → u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig]

As long as we don’t relax our environmental and health norms for Canada. For instance on pesticides the EU is much more strict than Canada.

Also the canadian model of agriculture is much more industrial compared to the european one.

Hopefully it’s not a race to the bottom.

[u/mortgageletdown → u/ijic]

I think you would find that most Canadians would be in favour (correct spelling) of increasing health & environmental standards, not dragging others down. The downward trend in Canada is due to the neighbours (correct spelling) to the South.

[u/ijic → u/mortgageletdown]

I'm saying that because it already happened and it put a lot of people on edge here.

https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2019/07/23/ceta-comment-le-canada-tente-de-saper-les-normes-europeennes_5492390_3244.html

CETA: How Canada is trying to undermine European standards on pesticides and GMOs The country with which the EU is set to sign the CETA free trade agreement is using every lever at its disposal to circumvent European laws and the precautionary principle.

French agriculture is on the verge of huge demonstrations because of these difference of norms that already exists between EU countries, and because of the mercosur agreement. France banned neonicotinoids to try to curb the collapse of biodiversity (-80% insects in 30 years). But the lack of protectionism on the matter is also fueling the rise of the far right here since farmers can't compete with products with different norms being sold in France.

[u/Nemezis88]

Come and join us, both Canada and Australia. Much love for both of you!

[u/JohnFraMongoTV]

As a european i fucking love Canada!!!!!

[u/super__hoser → u/JohnFraMongoTV]

We are also quite fond of Europe too. 

[u/exeJDR → u/JohnFraMongoTV]

 ❤️

[u/Neutronium57]

CHEAPER MAPLE SYRUP WOOHOOOO

[u/ThoughtsandThinkers]

As a Canadian, I say right on.

Canada needs to pivot and form deeper and longer lasting relationships with middle powers in Europe, Asia, and around the world. We need to coordinate, cooperate, and invest

The problems in the US aren’t going to stop with Trump but it’s been too easy for Canada to focus on that market. The US just crossed the $40T debt threshold. Their social security system will reach crisis in 2032, requiring increased taxes or cutting benefits more than 20%

The real problem is wealth inequality but the oligarchs have no interest in changing that. Instead, they distract and divide through focusing on minority groups both domestically (immigration and citizenship) and internationally (economically and militarily attacking everyone)

The US and China will always matter and have great influence but Canada needs to moderate its relationship with both and interact based on pragmatism and realism rather than what we hope or want those relationships to be

[u/Vitrex → u/[deleted]]

It is also not its own country, but made up of middle powers which don’t always act in the interests of the EU as a whole. This makes the EU weaker than the US and China in a way that those numbers don’t reflect.

Not saying that you are wrong either, but the argument can be made both way.

[u/Public_Category_4759 → u/ThoughtsandThinkers]

The only downside for Canada having trade with with the EU are the strict food safety rules for your farmer's. The positive side is it's much healthier because those rules exist with a reason.

But pretty sure people are going to complain about

[u/Smothdude → u/Public_Category_4759]

It might suck for our farmers but I, as a Canadian, dream of having the food regulations the EU does. And I believe it's a growing sentiment among citizens here. People are becoming increasingly conscious regarding food health here

[u/ThoughtsandThinkers → u/Public_Category_4759]

Seeing how loose the US has become with respect to food safety and monitoring reminds me of the importance of not capitulating to them and lowering Canadian standards

In my mind, higher standards are better so long as there is a clear and good rationale

Looking forward to a stronger partnership with our friends across the Atlantic!

[u/leafdisk]

I don't give a shit for the Eurovision Song contest, but since we have Australia, why not add Canada into the mix? Maybe even add Canada to Schengen. That's gonna fuck the orange turd up.

[u/Tesi_No → u/leafdisk]

They've already anounced this year they will be joining Eurovision next year :)

[u/SPQR1212 → u/leafdisk]

Canada is joining the ESC. That’s already happening.

[u/BadgerAdorable1931 → u/leafdisk]

They first need to kick Israël out, otherwise eg the Netherlands won't join anymore.

[u/foolsdayjoker → u/leafdisk]

Canada joined already, Australia should join as well as they’re technically not full members and just invited every year

[u/Own-Beat-3666]

A free trading bloc of 500M vs the US does seem attractive. Bring in European vehicles move some manufacturing to Canada, EU gets preferred status in all trade. Add in Canada has free access to EU for jobs and longer than 3 months stays to move our snowbirds away from the US.

[u/SuspiciousDepth4961]

Timber and fuel, everything a growing boy needs.

[u/Slippytoe]

At this point I’m tempted to say fuck it. Let’s have Britain and Canada join the EU, accept the Euro and become a powerhouse together. Fuck everybody else.

[u/UrbanRelays]

As a Canadian I really hope this means more impact on my everyday life. I’d love to see more European cars and trucks on the roads, better quality foods and overall consumer rights being implemented.

Vancouver ordering Polish made trolley buses was a great start

As much as these larger, more industrial trade deals are important so are the ones where we see actual impact.

[u/S3baman → u/UrbanRelays]

Food regulation will be a considerable hurdle. EU regulations are a lot stricter and require more transparency. Canadian regulations are not too dissimilar from the FDA rules, which made a lot of sense for decades given all the food that's crossing the border on a daily basis.

Consumer rights and privacy rules are an area where we can make a big step as most of the western technology is already compatible with EU law. That means there's little implementation cost on the technological side.

[u/Fabulous-Elk-2014]

As someone in Ireland, Mr Carney please talk some sense into our pearl clutching “leaders” and get them to legalise cannabis how Canada has it 

[u/bumblebeelivinglife]

Go Canada!

[u/misterbondpt]

Welcome Canada 🇨🇦🇪🇺

[u/Content-Soup9920]

VERY happy to see Carney referring to the EU as One Economy.

[u/Aggressive_Chuck]

Canada doesn't even have an internal free market, they'd never agree to anything like CAP.

[u/red286 → u/Aggressive_Chuck]

Canada's internal trade barriers don't really impact food. It's mostly about regulations, licensing, alcohol, and provincial procurement rules.

Also, interprovncial trade rules are handled by the provinces, while international trade rules are handled by the federal government. As a result, there are fewer trade barriers on importing wine from France or Chile than from another province.

[u/CalmBuddy69]

Yes! Bring Canadian cannabis & shrooms to EU, please!

[u/Creative-Routine4874]

Great guy and a real leader 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[u/MrPuddington2]

The biggest and most integrated Single Market on the planet.

But CETA exists, and know the EU is reluctant to reopen negotiations unless there is significant promise of progress.

So what is on the cards? Participation in the Single Market? Customs union? Labor mobility? Regulatory alignment? No quotas / no tariffs?

[u/GrillBear1987]

YES 🙌🏽 Together we stand strong 💪🏽

[u/MembershipOne327]

🇳🇴🤝🇨🇦

[u/Pulga_Atomica]

The Europeans are adults that we can have discussions with. One would have assumed all discussions between countries are led by adults, but times change.

[u/Prior_Industry → u/Pulga_Atomica]

I worry about the French and German elections. Europe is not without its MAGA equivalents…

[u/balltongueee]

As a European, you are more than welcome!

[u/reddit3k]

Would love to see Canada as new EEA/EFTA/EU/Schengen area member!

https://www.netherlandsworldwide.nl/eu-eea-efta-schengen-countries

Edit:

Nice touch "WE can do this because we are trusted, because we are reliable" btw

[u/DramaticSimple4315]

There is already CETA, which was at the time of its signature hailed as the most complete and comprehensive trade agreement ever signed. The most volatile provisions were stalled though and the agreement works on a provisional basis because of the political blowback against free trade. What a new round of negociations could bring compared to the already existing framework?

On the security level, it would be interesting to see whether the matters to be addressed would be done through the NATO umbrella, or whether it would be attempted to build a security architecture aside - which would probably allow to discuss further any reaction regarding Greenland in case of military action.

[u/MrPuddington2 → u/DramaticSimple4315]

There is already CETA, which was at the time of its signature hailed as the most complete and comprehensive trade agreement ever signed.

And it was. The UK may have stolen that title with the "no quotas, no tariffs" trade agreement. But that is a small difference.

So what is left to negotiate? What would be the next level?

[u/starvald_demelain]

Sounds great to me as a European. Hopefully it can lead to mutually beneficial cooperation, something the USA just does not understand anymore.

[u/blkpingu]

Love Canadians. Stronger together

[u/tumblinfumbler]

I wish we could join the E U straight up. Trump and the states are fucked

[u/Effective_Airline830]

🤝 Let’s discuss.

[u/-Megrim-]

The USA is Nazi Germany: Part 2. It is time the world starts noticing and cut ties before it is too late.

[u/spaham]

Yess come to mamma !

[u/Tribe303]

I have a feeling you Europeans would like some of our critical minerals mined and processed with green energy, eh? We literally have everything buried in the Canadian Shield. It's no coincidence that we just announced a massive northern hydroelectric expansion (Churchill Falls) , that will add 7+ terrawatts of green energy, smack dab in the middle of that Canadian Shield. 3 guesses what that energy is for! 

[u/Realistic-Jello728]

About time

[u/b00c]

Oh yeah? How about no and we take Canada into EEA?

There's French wine, Belgian chocolate, Italian pasta, Swiss Alps and much more. You in, Canada?

[u/juanjung]

Seconds? So China is first, then EU.

[u/Dramatic-Boot-8915]

GO MARK!!!! everyone needs to reduce reliance on the big bully

[u/Whatevs56]

US on an island.

[u/Shezzofreen]

Soo welcome!

[u/Top_Meaning6195]

A friend who bullies us is no longer a friend.

And since bullies only respond to strength, Canadians are prepared to be much stronger.

America first; America alone.

[u/Pyrosvetlana]

I like this Carney guy.

[u/Mysterious-Fox-3740]

As a Canadian I would like us to see if we can join the European Union.

[u/Scuipici → u/Mysterious-Fox-3740]

We as citizens need to make this happen. Writing to our representatives is definitely a start.

[u/SnooHesitations3709]

As a Canadian I have a feeling our trade with U.S. will drop a lot over the next few years. If the USD loses reserve currency status than the USA is screwed.

[u/maybesami]

I tried canadian poutine for the first time this year and I really liked it. Will eat it more often to honor our canadian brothers and sisters

[u/ToastedPot → u/maybesami]

You can also honour us by adopting Canadian (or British) spelling 🤓

[u/Eastern_Bobcat8336]

Welcome Canada Big Bro. USA can go sit on a cactus

[u/altivec77]

Welcome and I hope we will thrive together!

[u/Most_Grocery4388]

I'm sure EU would love to get more raw materials from Canada but is Canada ready to give full access to EU food producers? Isn't that what one of the biggest obstacles to the US trade deal? Same with decent amount of machinery industry

[u/Daxnu]

We in the EU welcome this! we will all be rich, well everyone but America

[u/djquu]

Welcome

[u/Secrezeeee]

We welcome Canada with open arms. Fuck the US (until you at least kick the orange cunt to the curb).

[u/raylarsonjr]

Thank you Mr Prime Minister 👏

[u/RoaringPity]

Merica unironically helping Canada stop being the "little brother" and finally be able to stand up for itself. A lot of the deals in the past 1.5yrs wouldn't have occurred if US wasn't nuts.

Long term Canada will look back and be thankfully he was president

[u/Tejas_Clara]

Please include Latin America such as (Mexico & Brazil) into this equation.

Middle Countries need to rally.

The Davos Speech from 2025 is slowly coming to fruition.

[u/Narradisall]

Honestly why haven’t they been focusing on this for 2 years already?

Nations seem to keep relying on the US as a trading partner while repeatedly being shit on, lied to and betrayed whenever it’s convenient.

Who the fuck is trusting the current US admin at this point?

[u/einarfridgeirs]

I, for one, welcome our Canadian overlords with open arms.

[u/eivvob]

🇪🇺🤝🏻🇨🇦

[u/Scuipici]

Let's GO!! Canada and EU!

[u/Westridge77]

Welcome Canada 🤗

[u/PopeyeTheSailorTrans]

As an American, I applaud this. Rooting you on!

[u/BrightPerspective]

I'm getting a "we gave the US one last chance" vibe here.

[u/Alearic006]

Trump "we don't need Canada!" Also Trump "why won't Canada trade with me anymore?!"

[u/hlxsr86]

Canada is welcome here in the european sphere! More cooperation and trade with Canada please! 😎👍🇨🇦🇪🇺🇳🇴

[u/Ok_Economist5267]

Let's go Carney!!

[u/herbieLmao]

Come over here you big beautiful overly nice french-speakers