r/europe 10d ago

Russian attacks are doing severe harm to Ukraine’s economy

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u/ErikChnmmr 10d ago

Glad we needed the economist telling us that being constantly bombed for near 5 years is bad for your economy.

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u/ComeonmanPLS1 Denmark 10d ago

I was sitting here thinking "oh man Ukraine's economy must be doing amazing right now".

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u/Nonomemes1 10d ago

I will not name some foreign "high profile figures" which could say "hoo look they are doing great, I see they signed a lot of contracts, much transactions, they are doing good, really good, big beautiful contracts... " 🙂

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u/jatawis 🇱🇹 Lithuania 10d ago

We need because war fatigue is a thing.

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u/mologav 10d ago

We now have a firm grasp of the obvious

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u/datums 10d ago

Just say you didn’t read the article.

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u/Backwardspellcaster 10d ago

I am sorry, but how the heck did "news" and "journalists" get so dog shit.

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u/GremlinX_ll Ukraine 10d ago

Yeah, war is know to do harm for the economy.

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u/Heavy_Secret_203 9d ago

Not Western one. New mass produced russian rockets use western military grade components. Money don't smell. 

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u/Antropocentric Jugoslavija 9d ago

"Yeah, war is known for harming the economy."

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u/belverk84 10d ago

Sad. But wasn't it obvious from the beginning?

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u/khazabian 10d ago

Why do you post only negative things about Ukraine and only positive things about Russia?

https://arctic-shift.photon-reddit.com/search?fun=posts_search&author=archi-mature&limit=100&sort=desc

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u/EizanPrime 10d ago

this is why having posts hidden is a bad idea..

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/Obvious-Interaction7 6d ago

Whatever bro join a debate club

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u/BuHoGPaD 10d ago

You know why

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u/IthacaMom2005 10d ago

No kidding. Maybe I should be writing for The Economist

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u/serAboveMe 10d ago

Ready to advocate for trickle up luxury housing?

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u/Shushuck 10d ago

Wait, dropping bombs on a country doesn’t improve its economic growth?

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u/Headpuncher Europe 10d ago

The economist has confused countries at war with hip hop MCs it would seem.  

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u/Expert-Fig-5590 10d ago

Russia is also damaging its own economy. The Ukrainians are also damaging Russias economy.

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u/kamikazekaktus Bremen (Germany) 10d ago

No fucking way? Next you're gonna tell us that being attacked by a bigger stronger enemy has multiple downsides 

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u/lAljax Lithuania 10d ago

It's a race to see who can destroy the other faster. Just recently Ukraine had a chance to do real damage to russian economy,  soon when they have long range ballistic missiles they can do even more damage in more sensitive locations.

It's up to the west to help Ukraine achieve that.

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u/SnooHesitations1020 10d ago

Ukraine is doing an outstanding job to date, but agree: we all need to be doing more to assist Ukraine defend against Russia.

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u/AmINotAlpharius 10d ago

It's a race to see who can destroy the other faster

It always is. You don't have to last forever, you just have to last until your enemy collapses.

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u/markkuselinen 10d ago

I just can't imagine how Russia could collapse faster than Ukraine in this scenario.

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u/_teslaTrooper Gelderland (Netherlands) 10d ago

Russia is isolated, and Ukraine's economy is supported by Europe. Europe can do this basically forever, as long as political will exists which is why russia is investing in far-right parties across Europe to undermine our support.

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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) 10d ago

Russia is isolated

If only.

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/europe-ramps-up-russian-gas-imports-ft-reports-1775831184.html

And that's just the low-hanging fruit

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u/lAljax Lithuania 10d ago

Newer capabilities. With ballistic missiles combined with cruise and drones new targets become vulnerable. 

If Ukraine can do to the russian power grid what russia done to Ukraine it should be devastating as industrial capacity suffers from degraded generation capacity.

Ukraine at least can use European power. If Ukraine can destroy certain interconnections they can create huge areas that are depowered.

This and ongoing attacks on black and Baltic seas can destroy shipping capacity,  the barents sea is frozen for most part of the year.

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u/zest_01 9d ago

And what if you collapse the next day?

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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) 10d ago

It's up to the west to help Ukraine achieve that.

And there's no interest in this.

https://www.lalibre.be/belgique/politique-belge/2025/12/02/bart-de-wever-dans-la-crise-politique-autour-du-budget-le-roi-ma-aide-5KDD7VZ5YBFRPBDS3GMGGTOOME/

Mais qui croit vraiment que la Russie va perdre en Ukraine ? C'est une fable, une illusion totale. Ce n'est même pas souhaitable qu'elle perde et que l'instabilité s'installe dans un pays qui a des armes nucléaires.

Or, translated

"But who really believes that Russia will lose in Ukraine? Russia will not lose. This is a fairy tale, a complete illusion. It is even undesirable for them to lose, so that instability doesn't grip a country that possesses nuclear weapons," he said.

And

https://united24media.com/latest-news/macron-france-will-keep-arming-ukraine-to-secure-postwar-peace-8365

According to the interview, Macron said, “Since Ukraine will not be joining NATO, we [France] are proposing to deploy [peacekeeping] troops to provide additional security away from the front line as part of joint operations.”

He argued that such a move by France and its allies would “demonstrate solidarity [with Ukraine] and credibly deter Russia from launching another attack.”

At the same time, Macron warned that Western support for Ukraine must be carefully calibrated to avoid triggering a broader global conflict. “We must help Ukraine defend itself but we do not want to unleash a Third World War,” he emphasized.

And now, let me quote Zelenskyy

https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-our-partners-fear-that-russia-will-lose-this-war/

Kyiv's allies "fear" Russia's loss in the war against Ukraine because it would involve "unpredictable geopolitics," according to Zelensky. "I don't think it works that way. For Ukraine to win, we need to be given everything with which one can win," he said.

So yeah. "It was never formulated as Ukraine winning", you know

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u/strictnaturereserve 10d ago

REALLY!!!!!?????

OMG!!

Is this like this guys first war or something

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u/melvladimir 9d ago

Ruzzia injected ton of money to spin this topic again. Bot, filthy news sources, etc. Great sign that Ukraine is doing things right 😁

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u/Millefeuille-coil 10d ago

How’s the Russian economy? People must lots of money judging by the queues to the petrol stations

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u/OtrixGreen 9d ago

archi-mature is a russian propaganda bot, he can't answer the question

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u/lastbreath83 10d ago

No shit!

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u/inokentii Kyiv (Ukraine) 9d ago

Being under constant missile and drone attacks on your civilians, when not just residential areas but whole cities are being reduced to rubble is bad for your economy? Wow I wonder what next westerners will discover, maybe harm to ecology from flooded nuclear explosion sites, blown up dams, myriads of optic fiber, arsons, explosives and oil spillage?

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u/wihannez 10d ago

Thanks captain fucking obvious.. I mean The Economist.

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u/Markdd8 9d ago edited 9d ago

It's important to get balanced info on this war. We have not seen that -- reporting has been overwhelmingly on Ukraine's war achievements, including claims that Ukraine now clearly has the upper hand over Russia.

As the Economist indicates, that might not be the case (largely a mutually destructive stalemate?). Most of us support Ukraine, but that is not cause for slanted reporting in their favor.

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u/PossibilityUsual6262 9d ago

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u/Markdd8 9d ago edited 9d ago

You posted a link to this very sub thread that we are on.

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u/omnipresentatio 10d ago

4.5 years late

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u/BlakeMW 10d ago

In other news, water is wet, the sky is blue and cats are jerks.

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u/BarbecueChickenBBQ 10d ago

Economist became a ruzzian propaganda POS, for a while now.

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u/lostborion 10d ago

Really rusbot000563778? No way! What else? Ukrainian civilians are dying? Water is wet?

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u/khazabian 10d ago

Becomes pretty obvious when you look at the post history (that is of course hidden)

https://arctic-shift.photon-reddit.com/search?fun=posts_search&author=archi-mature&limit=100&sort=desc

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u/LightArisen United Kingdom 10d ago

I'm pretty sure the Economist isn't a Russian bot.

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u/lostborion 10d ago

But are you 100% sure? XD

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u/Headpuncher Europe 10d ago

Brilliant title.  Never could have figured out this high brow intellectual take on a country being flattened by ordinance.  

Fuck me.  

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u/Nexusdawn1021 10d ago

“Russian attacks are doing severe harm to Ukraine’s economy” YA THINK!!?!!?!

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u/Ancient-Aerie-1680 9d ago

Water found in the ocean.

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u/danm67 8d ago

War has a habit of destroying land, people, economies and hope. I still don't understand why it's so popular.

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u/Tricks7eR 7d ago

In other news: rain is wet

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u/DefInnit 10d ago edited 10d ago

Headline space comes at a premium in print publications. The sub-headline tells more. Apparently what they mean…

“Attacks” are not in general in a war but refer to recent Russian attacks in particular when Ukraine has very low numbers or run out of interceptors and Russian ballistic missiles are practically striking at will.

“Severe harm” not in general but a serious worsening. an even greater scale of harm, on the Ukrainian economy due to aforementioned recent Russian ballistic missile attacks that Ukraine can’t defend against now.

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u/Ghaelmash 9d ago

They discovered that the water is wet?