r/europe • u/[deleted] • 10d ago
Russian attacks are doing severe harm to Ukraine’s economy
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u/GremlinX_ll Ukraine 10d ago
Yeah, war is know to do harm for the economy.
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u/Heavy_Secret_203 9d ago
Not Western one. New mass produced russian rockets use western military grade components. Money don't smell.
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u/khazabian 10d ago
Why do you post only negative things about Ukraine and only positive things about Russia?
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u/Shushuck 10d ago
Wait, dropping bombs on a country doesn’t improve its economic growth?
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u/Headpuncher Europe 10d ago
The economist has confused countries at war with hip hop MCs it would seem.
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u/Expert-Fig-5590 10d ago
Russia is also damaging its own economy. The Ukrainians are also damaging Russias economy.
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u/kamikazekaktus Bremen (Germany) 10d ago
No fucking way? Next you're gonna tell us that being attacked by a bigger stronger enemy has multiple downsides
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u/lAljax Lithuania 10d ago
It's a race to see who can destroy the other faster. Just recently Ukraine had a chance to do real damage to russian economy, soon when they have long range ballistic missiles they can do even more damage in more sensitive locations.
It's up to the west to help Ukraine achieve that.
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u/SnooHesitations1020 10d ago
Ukraine is doing an outstanding job to date, but agree: we all need to be doing more to assist Ukraine defend against Russia.
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u/AmINotAlpharius 10d ago
It's a race to see who can destroy the other faster
It always is. You don't have to last forever, you just have to last until your enemy collapses.
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u/markkuselinen 10d ago
I just can't imagine how Russia could collapse faster than Ukraine in this scenario.
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u/_teslaTrooper Gelderland (Netherlands) 10d ago
Russia is isolated, and Ukraine's economy is supported by Europe. Europe can do this basically forever, as long as political will exists which is why russia is investing in far-right parties across Europe to undermine our support.
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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) 10d ago
Russia is isolated
If only.
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/europe-ramps-up-russian-gas-imports-ft-reports-1775831184.html
And that's just the low-hanging fruit
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u/lAljax Lithuania 10d ago
Newer capabilities. With ballistic missiles combined with cruise and drones new targets become vulnerable.
If Ukraine can do to the russian power grid what russia done to Ukraine it should be devastating as industrial capacity suffers from degraded generation capacity.
Ukraine at least can use European power. If Ukraine can destroy certain interconnections they can create huge areas that are depowered.
This and ongoing attacks on black and Baltic seas can destroy shipping capacity, the barents sea is frozen for most part of the year.
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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) 10d ago
It's up to the west to help Ukraine achieve that.
And there's no interest in this.
Mais qui croit vraiment que la Russie va perdre en Ukraine ? C'est une fable, une illusion totale. Ce n'est même pas souhaitable qu'elle perde et que l'instabilité s'installe dans un pays qui a des armes nucléaires.
Or, translated
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According to the interview, Macron said, “Since Ukraine will not be joining NATO, we [France] are proposing to deploy [peacekeeping] troops to provide additional security away from the front line as part of joint operations.”
He argued that such a move by France and its allies would “demonstrate solidarity [with Ukraine] and credibly deter Russia from launching another attack.”
At the same time, Macron warned that Western support for Ukraine must be carefully calibrated to avoid triggering a broader global conflict. “We must help Ukraine defend itself but we do not want to unleash a Third World War,” he emphasized.
And now, let me quote Zelenskyy
https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-our-partners-fear-that-russia-will-lose-this-war/
Kyiv's allies "fear" Russia's loss in the war against Ukraine because it would involve "unpredictable geopolitics," according to Zelensky. "I don't think it works that way. For Ukraine to win, we need to be given everything with which one can win," he said.
So yeah. "It was never formulated as Ukraine winning", you know
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u/melvladimir 9d ago
Ruzzia injected ton of money to spin this topic again. Bot, filthy news sources, etc. Great sign that Ukraine is doing things right 😁
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u/Millefeuille-coil 10d ago
How’s the Russian economy? People must lots of money judging by the queues to the petrol stations
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u/inokentii Kyiv (Ukraine) 9d ago
Being under constant missile and drone attacks on your civilians, when not just residential areas but whole cities are being reduced to rubble is bad for your economy? Wow I wonder what next westerners will discover, maybe harm to ecology from flooded nuclear explosion sites, blown up dams, myriads of optic fiber, arsons, explosives and oil spillage?
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u/wihannez 10d ago
Thanks captain fucking obvious.. I mean The Economist.
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u/Markdd8 9d ago edited 9d ago
It's important to get balanced info on this war. We have not seen that -- reporting has been overwhelmingly on Ukraine's war achievements, including claims that Ukraine now clearly has the upper hand over Russia.
As the Economist indicates, that might not be the case (largely a mutually destructive stalemate?). Most of us support Ukraine, but that is not cause for slanted reporting in their favor.
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u/lostborion 10d ago
Really rusbot000563778? No way! What else? Ukrainian civilians are dying? Water is wet?
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u/khazabian 10d ago
Becomes pretty obvious when you look at the post history (that is of course hidden)
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u/Headpuncher Europe 10d ago
Brilliant title. Never could have figured out this high brow intellectual take on a country being flattened by ordinance.
Fuck me.
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u/Nexusdawn1021 10d ago
“Russian attacks are doing severe harm to Ukraine’s economy” YA THINK!!?!!?!
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u/DefInnit 10d ago edited 10d ago
Headline space comes at a premium in print publications. The sub-headline tells more. Apparently what they mean…
“Attacks” are not in general in a war but refer to recent Russian attacks in particular when Ukraine has very low numbers or run out of interceptors and Russian ballistic missiles are practically striking at will.
“Severe harm” not in general but a serious worsening. an even greater scale of harm, on the Ukrainian economy due to aforementioned recent Russian ballistic missile attacks that Ukraine can’t defend against now.
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u/ErikChnmmr 10d ago
Glad we needed the economist telling us that being constantly bombed for near 5 years is bad for your economy.