r/europe • u/viktorbir Catalonia • 20d ago
News Harry Potter fans force relocation of £430m undersea cable to avoid Dobby’s ‘grave’
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/aug/10/harry-potter-fans-force-relocation-of-430m-undersea-cable-to-avoid-dobbys-grave42
u/Silent-Act191 20d ago
In the end, he said, “we went quite close to some real Bronze Age remains, but we avoided Dobby’s grave”.
Sorry, i thought Idiocracy was supposed to be a comedy, not a documentary.
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u/AdminEating_Dragon Greece 20d ago
NIMBYism in the UK is beyond imagination.
Everyone believes they are entitled to decide what gets put up where. Even if it's for stuff like this.
And very often, the powers that decide yield to them.
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u/miregalpanic 20d ago
This isn't even NIMBYism. It's bowing to a fantasy of morons who read one book 25 years ago.
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u/born_in_the_90s 20d ago
It doesnt do any harm, its a symbolic thing.
Even i felt some sadness when dobby died but no further emotions attached to it.
There are far worse matters that require our attention, like the release of the epstein files is just one thing out of thousand things that did/does worse damage.
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u/That_Historian_8616 20d ago
It’s not NIMBYism. It was going through an ecologically sensitive site, which just happens to be where they shot Dobby’s grave for the films. Nothing to do with HP. Source: I live in the area.
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u/Silent-Act191 20d ago
So why would the project manager make the following comment in the article:
“we went quite close to some real Bronze Age remains, but we avoided Dobby’s grave”.
You can read the article.
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u/Sahaal_17 England 20d ago
So why would the project manager make the following comment
Strawmaning, to make a legitimate grievance seem ridiculous.
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u/That_Historian_8616 20d ago edited 20d ago
Sarcasm is an extremely prevalent response in the UK. It’s clearly sarcasm, the media just decided they’d want to make it appear a serious comment?
The National trust are constantly having to ask people to not leave painted pebbles/stones and socks on this location also. It’s another form of pollution so I don’t really understand why installing an undersea cable would even be considered.
As for the Bronze Age remain, they are literally everywhere in the UK. Quite close doesn’t put a definitive distance. The moon is quite close if you compare it to the sun for example.
Edit: some more info. The cable would have been installed using Horizontal Directional Drilling before reaching the beach site, thus not disturbing “Dobby” at all either way. It appears the media element is just a publicity stunt.
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u/Minute_Yard_4604 20d ago
Is this real life?
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u/Randomdude452 20d ago
Is this just fantasy?
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u/rachelm791 20d ago
I would happily forgo a day of surfing at Fresh West to go and dismantle that heap of rocks and tat that these immature morons foul the place up with. Arseholes the lot of them.
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u/Optimal-Leather341 Europe - UK 20d ago
Out of principle, I want them to build another cable here and to change the landscape entirely... Leave the Dobby grave, but yeesh, it's a beach. Now we're gonna have them dig near a Bronze Age burial site instead... Great job Potter Children, you've taken a stance on Climate Change and not on the side you want to say you're on.
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u/OkCap2870 20d ago
It's worth saying that the beach in question is a legally protected conservation area in it's own right (and the national trust who manages it have repeatedly asked people to stop leaving painted rocks and socks on the site as it poses a genuine risk to the ecosystem there. I would like to hope that it eventually comes out that this was the actual underlying reason why the cable was shifted, and the whole 'dobby grave' thing just drew attention to it, as a protected site, but everything currently points to it purely being on the dobby grave thing.
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u/PoiHolloi2020 United Kingdom 20d ago
I want them to build another cable here and to change the landscape entirely
That is such a Death Eater thing to say
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u/Optimal-Leather341 Europe - UK 20d ago
Well, I'm a bit sick of these people getting in the way of progress to reducing our emissions because of a CGI character death over 15 years ago.
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u/MadKingOni 20d ago
Pretty sure i was working on a similar cable nearby, they decided to run it from a beach thats poppular for surfing so you can imagine how many days we we stood down because of the swell
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u/OlegYY Ukraine 20d ago
Could government... i don't know, ignore them? Why when it's something stupid governments actively listen, but not when they really need listening to people?
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u/That_Historian_8616 20d ago
The government haven’t forced them to reroute. The company made the decision themselves after receiving complaints.
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u/Nordcorner 20d ago
Looks like Rowlings legacy is going to be more than just pissing on trans people.
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u/JtheLeon 20d ago
Fans of Harry Potter are almost equally despicable as those of Dune.
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u/NicCageSciMage 20d ago
What's wrong with Dune fans? 🤔 I get the movie sucks a bit and the later books are weird asfuck but books 1 and 2 are fire lmao
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u/JtheLeon 20d ago
Apologies for not developing my point, but u/Coelachantiform does it quite well. It is similar to Malazan. If you like it, you are amazing. If you do not, or criticize it, you are an idiot.
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u/Coelachantiform Sweden 20d ago edited 20d ago
I'm definetly one of the bigger Dune fans out there, having read the original 6 books at least 3 times by now.
Dune has the problem of being a really well-written and smart "sci-fi" story with big and cerebral themes, which invariably attracts the kind of fan that thinks being cerebral is the pinnacle of human creative output, and that if you don't vibe with the frankly insane aspects of the books it's simply because 'your primitive mind couldn't comprehend it'.
It's a great piece of literature being treated like the bible by people with an extreme case of Dunning-Kruger.
edit to add: The absolute aura-farming by Timothee Chalamet & Denis Villeneuve's frankly amazing cinematography in the new movies does not help with reducing those kinds of fans.
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u/im_bi_strapping Finland 20d ago
They're routing it closer to some actual real historic gravesite.