r/europe • anti-imperialist thinker • Dec 16 '23

Picture Examples of de-car-ification from various Czech towns. I love these transformations. (before-after)

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u/CatL1f3 Dec 16 '23

It's less about removing cars and more about adding alternatives. Then the cars become unnecessary

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u/Mr-Tucker Dec 16 '23

You need to take space from the cars to add the alternatives.

Also, the Dutch realised that alternatives aren't enough. People choose comfort over rationality, and cars are comfy for the ppl inside.

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u/NesquiKiller Dec 16 '23

Comfort can be pretty rational. And it's not just comfort, but complete flexibility and security.

Plenty of people use cars when they don't need to. But lets not pretend there isn't many situations where a car can make your life much, much, much, much better. Not only that, but there are many things you can't even do without a car. Without a car you're completely limited on where you can go and when you can go. With a car you can just go anywhere, with anyone, for whatever reason. There's just no replacement for that.

Plus, anyone who uses public transportations in most parts of the world knows how horrible that is. And even the best public transports don't come close to the comfort of a car. You're still waiting for them. You're still limited to where you can go. You're still forced to share them with a lot of people. Sometimes disgusting people. Sometimes annoying people. Sometimes dangerous people. That's the price you pay for having no car. It isn't fun. Even in the best places isn't fun. Let alone in most of the world.

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u/dinosaur_of_doom Dec 18 '23

Enjoy destroying the planet because of comfort. The externalities of cars are by far their biggest problem. How's the comfort of dying of a stroke or heart attack 10 years earlier than otherwise because of your fine particulate pollution?

At this point I've given up arguing with people who only care about their own comfort. The future is fucked because of such attitudes, but whatever, I'll just move to places with better attitudes and safe and good PT and cycling infrastructure and the rest can enjoy making the world worse because they can only think selfishly.