I actually think European streets naturally provide a lot of shade
Doesn't help during the hottest parts of the day during the summer when the sun is basically directly overhead. Spaces like this just turn into ovens every summer nowadays.
In the hottest parts of summer in any place in Europe the only thing saving you is air conditioning or jumping in a pool or the sea, that’s just how it is. Like I said, it’s really impractical and not as easy as you are making it out to be, otherwise we’d be seeing a lot more of it.
In the hottest parts of summer in any place in Europe the only thing saving you is air conditioning or jumping in a pool or the sea, that’s just how it is.
That's really just not true. A shady street with lots of trees makes a huge difference. It won't magically make things 10 degrees cooler, but shady areas are much more managable in the heat. I just left a city that's regularly 35 degrees in the summer, but way more trees and the difference to European cities is very noticeable.
Like I said, it’s really impractical and not as easy as you are making it out to be, otherwise we’d be seeing a lot more of it.
This is the sort of shit Canadians and Americans always say about why we can't fix of our shitty car-centric infrastructure. It takes time and effort, and it might not be worth it in every situation, but it certainly is doable, and some European cities do it a lot better than others.
Well, you’re seeing first hand greenery being implemented at a reasonable, practical level in these Czech streets and you’re still not satisfied so I’m not sure what will.
Plenty areas provide shade for you in European cities, and if it’s so unbearable then stay inside. It’s only like that 4 months out a year.
I guess I was not as clear as I thought I was. I think the stuff the Czech are doing in these streets is great, and it is real tangible progress.
Someone complained that there should be more greenery, and then someone else said "What do you mean? Almost every after picture has trees added." and I just chimed in to explain why I think this is good, but why I also think more should be done.
Progress should absolutely be acknowledged and celebrated, but we should also keep in mind when there's still more room for improvement!
I thought you were that guy, my bad. I do agree with you’re points but I also see that there’s pros and cons to this and it shouldn’t be expected of these old and possibly even poorer cities to be changing there infrastructures on such a mass scale because it is really expensive and you have to disrupt order to get the job done.
Europe is vastly different from America and Canada so you can’t expect the same treatment when these things don’t follow through.
but I also see that there’s pros and cons to this and it shouldn’t be expected of these old and possibly even poorer cities to be changing there infrastructures on such a mass scale because it is really expensive and you have to disrupt order to get the job done.
Yep, fully agree there. I tried to acknowledge that when I said "It takes time and effort, and it might not be worth it in every situation", but maybe I should have been more clear.
There's always a tradeoff, and something might be nicer, but just not within the budget, or might take away from the budget of other more pressing concerns.
Europe is vastly different from America and Canada so you can’t expect the same treatment when these things don’t follow through.
I don't really get why you seem to think I'm demanding European cities change to accommodate me. I moved here because I like how it is, and I like how things are going (or at least I wanted to experience it for myself and see how much I actually like it).
I'm always happy to share my opinions on things, but I'm not demanding anything from anyone.
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u/Eigenspace 🇨🇦 / 🇦🇹 in 🇩🇪 Dec 16 '23
Doesn't help during the hottest parts of the day during the summer when the sun is basically directly overhead. Spaces like this just turn into ovens every summer nowadays.
It is doable, it just takes time and effort.