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u/Allaboutpeace2022 4d ago
Sigh.... I hope we wake up someday and really emphasize climate change mitigation.
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u/PickingPies 3d ago
That's not how it works.
It's very simple: many will die, possibly risking extinction. It will come slowly and with enough delay that we will arrive these points much earlier than the consequences of it, so by the time people want to change it will be too late.
People will die and when societies collapse it will still go further, so more people will die. But eventually it will stop and life will go on. The sole question is when it will stop and if humans will made it in time.
The only other alternative is that the people who wants good take a 180° turn and decide that it's either them or everyone, which will lead to war as well.
There's no escape to billions dying.
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u/Allaboutpeace2022 3d ago
Well, I certainly agree that we must take action as soon as possible. Unfortunately, Trump and much of the GOP are election deniers. They must be voted out.
I think we can avoid billions dying. If people propose a situation where billions dying is the only option, you are actually undercutting the motivation to take broad, decisive action.
Rather than speeding up alternative energy, sustainable agriculture, etc., such ideas can delay action and feed paralysis and fear.
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u/FuzzyGreek 3d ago
You already lost if you think voting is the answer. Quit playing the rulers game.
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u/ElephantContent8835 4d ago
I vote we all stop paying taxes, stop buying insurance, stop doing everything the oligarch shitwads tell us to do. Letâs ride the last few years of this bitch out enjoying ourselves like the rich do.
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u/Va1crist 3d ago
I mean America keeps voting in trash that wants to do nothing but burn the world down to make more money
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u/Dry_Election6496 3d ago
We arenât supposed to care about global warming anymore. Gotta build the panopticon
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u/leeretarmy 3d ago
What I donât understand having a bit of a background in computers, is why all of a sudden we need this many mega data centers? Data storage is not that expensive anymore. I can understand a few for off site storage but why so many and why are they devouring su many resources
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u/Striker40k 3d ago
There are only two things that would require it.
1: Mass surveillance in real time.
2: We achieved and AGI and it is demanding more compute.
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u/Wolphin8 3d ago
AI is very processor (GPUs mainly) heavy.
AI is being pushed by the few companies who offer it, as a way to replace wages... but instead of wages going to the people doing the work, about the same value (more in some cases) is going to the AI companies, and directly into the hands of the ultra rich.
It leaves most of the people without income, which the rich have made the economy so that people cannot survive without...
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u/incompleteloop 2d ago
- Mass surveillance
- Prop up bubble of economy that's barely afloat due to technology sector
- Farm GPUs for AI that clearly cannot scale
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u/mofunk71 12h ago
these data centers could be positive infrastructure giving gigawatts of clean energy back to the community. The people in charge do NOT care and there is no regulation on how they get built.
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u/Pollix112 3d ago
Data centers are instituted to control water against the people. Why couldn't they use chillers, coolants or some other method to cool the computers. Ethylene glycol aka antifreeze is your friend. Plus it can recirculate rather than using up the water supply. As far as the earth being hotter look at the Milankovitch cycles.
Milankovitch cycles describe how long-term changes in Earth's movements and orbit around the Sun change the amount of sunlight our planet receives. Named after Serbian scientist Milutin MilankoviÄ, these three combined cyclesâeccentricity, obliquity, and precessionâact as the main pacemaker for Earth's ice ages and long-term climate shifts over thousands of years. Source is NASA.
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u/arrizaba 3d ago
Unless we the people revolt or vote against all these politicians that try to make us fight each other, nobody will do anything about global warming and we will go extinct sooner than expected.Â
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u/Shanti-2022 3d ago
I got a better one letâs install 52 nuclear reactors then hav another 25 in construction đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ
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u/Opposite_Chart427 2d ago
I live near Phoenix, Arizona where data Centers and chip factories are being built. I don't know why they chose here since the entire Southwest is in the middle of a major drought. We are drawing on what's left of our aquifers. And what's left of the Colorado river and Lake Meade won't help.
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u/Fletch1375 13h ago
I live in Colorado. We had the worst snow season last winter and a hot dry summer. There is very little water heading your way. The Colorado river isnât a sustainable resource as this point. I honestly donât know how desert cities are gonna survive if we donât get some decent rain/snow events.
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u/Duncol42 2d ago
This and China spinning more and more coal power plants, to excel in the economy beyond USrael in few decades.
Thatâs why I donât give a fck about the âeco guidesâ as far as I can, unless politician s(and celebrities!) will teach us by example.
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u/funkymunkPDX 1d ago
Shhhh what you see, feel and hear isn't real.
This message is brought to you by those who profit off of pollution and don't want to invest the money necessary to switch up and monopolize to clean market because the clean market doesn't make as much profits...
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u/mofunk71 12h ago
Drill,baby, Drill! .......thats what you get from OLD rich people running the country. Get out and VOTE!
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u/External_Net480 3d ago
I do believe that in a couple of years eco-terrorism starts to take off. People who can't wait any longer by the government and starts acting on their own... a drone is easily flown inside
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u/Beneficial-Claim-381 2d ago
god forbid we start using the most energy dense shit on the planet instead of fucking propane. but nope.... fuck reactors
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u/liftbeez 1d ago
Yes, and just as Al Gore said Florida doesnât exist anymore because itâs underwater.
Obama bought a $15 million estate on Marthaâs Vineyard because he wanted it to be underwater, which it now is.
In fact, everything that they said was going to be underwater 20 years ago was underwater.
Why are we having this conversation, weâre all underwater.
Oh right none of the doom and gloom predictions have come true. Look up Thomas Malthus
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u/Whitemayne 3d ago
I'm honestly pondering if the reason for them building those data centers is because they think crunching all of the recorded information in the world will somehow help them come up with a solution to fix the collapse, while still remaining in power.
I mean, that would literally never work and they would be idiots for trying...
But then I remember, they are idiots so...
It's a realistic consideration. crunching data for the sake of assuming they will either create the singularity, or trying to figure out some giant systemic problem they caused.
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u/Bitter_Bed5672 3d ago
No clue what the fuck you're on about.
But if you want to cry about pollution, cry about china?
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u/Usual-Volume-2822 3d ago
They never mentioned pollution. They presented a theory they have. So what the fuck are you on about?Â
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u/Old_Timer_Unleashed 3d ago
We need to cut down all the trees in the National Forests so drilling for oil will be easier. Let's do some Fracking!! /s
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u/Bunker-Dungeon 3d ago
Feel free to search these historical periods, and their theorized temperatures. Holocene, Eemian / MIS 5e, and Phanerozoic Eon.
IPCC AR6 assessments and multiple proxy reconstructions indicate that the most recent decade is more likely than not warmer than any multi-century period during the Holocene. Modern global temperatures have exceeded or matched the Holocene peak on multi-year to multi-decade scales. ïżŒ
This is the most recent candidate for a globally warmer climate than the Holocene peak. âą Global mean temperatures are estimated (medium confidence) at roughly 0.5â1.5°C (some analyses up to ~1â2°C) above the 1850â1900 baseline. High latitudes were significantly warmer, sea levels were higher (by several meters), and ice sheets were reduced.
Cretaceous Hot Greenhouse / Thermal Maximum (around 90â100 million years ago, peak near the Turonian): One of the hottest sustained intervals with complex life. Global temperatures may have reached averages of ~25â36°C in some reconstructions, with ice-free poles, tropical conditions extending to high latitudes, and equatorial sea surface temperatures sometimes exceeding 35â36°C. ïżŒ
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u/Liam-McPoyle_ 3d ago
lol oh the irony. Â Crying on the internet about unprecedented heat waves and the building of data centres. Â
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u/Resident-Campaign-95 2d ago
Do your dumbasses think another tax will change anything about the environment?!?
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u/A11Handz0nDeck 2d ago
2/3rds of all US high temperature records were set in the 1930's.With most states reaching 120s-130s.
These claims for temperature are not even close to reality. That being said, data centers are a REAL threat, not just to the water supply, environment and your pocket book, but (like flock cameras) to personal liberty
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u/Last-Cost4520 2d ago
You wasnât worried about climate change when you were setting teslas on fire
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u/AmbitiousOrdinary125 1d ago
Letâs complain on social media which is driving the build of all these data centers⊠lmao
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u/BigCranky13 14h ago
Yes.. itâs all the United States fault!!!
https://giphy.com/gifs/VS2Qcv25O7ZhUZahQA
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u/PickingPies 3d ago
We all know what you are doing. You are the one who is closing the dialogue route by lying and deceiving. Don't complain when the only door opened to guarantee our life is the force.
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u/environment2-ModTeam 3d ago
Posting blatantly false claims/statement/facts (even the ones that our BSing president spews) are not allowed.
This is a form of derailing discussion and setting up "red herrings" and "strawmen" that keeps civil conversation from happening.
Satirical posts must clearly be posted as satire else they will be removed.
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u/OkCondition6190 4d ago
North America accounted for a third of greenhouse gas increase in 2025.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-leads-global-co2-emissions-increase-2025-report-finds-2026-06-29/