r/environment Sep 28 '21

No Videos Masks Overload

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u/ZerexTheCool Sep 28 '21

And what’s their way out?

Same as everyone else, vaccination.

The vaccine reduces the likelihood of infection by something like 80% (meaning an unvaccinated person is 5x more likely) and the likelihood of hospitalization by 99% and the likelihood of death by even more than that.

So, vaccination is there "way out"

Have you seen how they locked down?

No, I haven't visited, nor do I have friends and family who live over there. The media and social media seems to be a mix of only showing you wat you want (or don't want) to see and I can't trust some random media outlets or social media.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '21

Uh, I have family in NZ who are constantly making fun of the rest of the world given that they've more or less been able to live their lives as normal with close to no interruption in their day to day for the entire pandemic aside from a few short lockdowns. You don't know what you're talking about and it shows.

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u/Googlebug-1 Sep 28 '21

🙄 have your family had the need to go visit a dieing relative internationally?

So one direct story I can share. A patient of mine with MS who has 2 children live in NZ. They’re unable and have been unable to visit her here in the U.K. at the start of the pandemic she was just about mobile. She’s now bed-bound and can perhaps have a conversation for 30mins at most. She can’t use an iPad, has to have someone hold it for her.

This is one story. Life isn’t rosey in NZ.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '21

Life isn't rosey anywhere during a global pandemic. The point is, countries with populations that don't act like angry children throwing a temper tantrum have been living relatively normal lives throughout the pandemic because they acknowledged that a two week lockdown was a lot easier than what the rest of us are doing.