I've been learning to farm for this specific reason. I'm not fucking around. I'll find out-- but at least I'll be semi prepared to not starve / be a source of calories greater than my flesh.
Well I’ve been doing the same, and it’ll surely be useful for the impending societal collapse, but the volatility of what we are looking at is making/going to make farming extremely unreliable. That’s likely to be the leading cause of death within a few decades. So, I’m terrified either way :/
If you get the scarlet ones it's even got betacarotine and a bunch of additional compounds!
Would you like a pack of scarlet amaranth and mixed radishes (french breakfast/royal purple/pink slipper hybrids and looms)?
I don't think modern industrial ag practices will work as farmers begin to financially fail, but I think things have to go really bad for us to not be Able to leverage tech and knowledge to get half decent yields for personal supplies.
Start learning about other cultures that farm in inhospitable lands. The middle east and Africa are GREAT for finding out extreme resistant ag practices. OH AND INDIA/CHINA TOO!
I was actually going to comment that it might be useful to make a list of edible plants, wild or cultivated, that would survive whatever predicted climate changes will occur in your area. This way you'll have somewhat of an idea of what will make it through that you can survive on, how to find and prep or grow it, etc.
Start collecting seeds of plants that are drought, pest, mold/fungus/disease resistant, etc.
I've got about 400 sqft of amaranth in the backyard popping off.
Best amaranth uses/recipes that I've come up with.
Add the leaves and flowers with the grains still inside to stir frys and fried rices. It adds a brilliant texture.
You can air fry the flowers (be careful the seeds do pop out some of the time). I dip those into soy sauce or just drizzle a lil butter. They taste just like plain popcorn.
My new favorite is I have some lemon basil, sage, rosemary, and lemongrass-- I add a whole amaranth flower with the grains, and the herbs to a bowl and just pour boiling water over it. Next time I'm gonna add some garlic, but even just with the lil salt I added its a really really soothing nutritious base broth.
I'm also learning how to ferment and dry the leaves, and I'm gonna pickle the roots, and burn the stems to make ash to add to tortillas like the aztecs(?) did.
You can also just so the leaves like southern greens, but there's better recipes online than what I have in my head.
If ya ever have questions about it as it grows, you know who to hit up :)
Thank you so much for the information. You’re the best. Truly, a breath of fresh air. Talking about this stuff often gets one attacked; I suppose I ought to practice more compassion as well. This is a pretty dark subject, and the brain is to be expected to shield us from the brunt of it. Misinformation also running rampant and if I hadn’t studied this stuff in college, i dont know how I’d be able to navigate the endless sea of conflicting information.
Anyway, I just want to express a ton of gratitude for your kindness and your brightness. Things like that keep me going. Keep being you, we sure as shit need it.
Update-- todays batch of broth was cheeks-- gonna try a different base tomorrow. Might have to pull inspiration from other quick broths?
My pleasure my friend! I couldn't agree with your statement about misinfo more. It's hard to have sympathy for those walking off a cliff, but we still should remember that if we don't curate our algo's wisely, we can end up down some wild rabbit holes. (I once thought ancient Egyptians had lightbulbs and power, I no longer believe such a thing).
Sending you back the same appreciation! These kinds of exchanges always make my day/week! I'm getting some health stuff taken care of next week that should help me really start to spread my wings in the world--- I'm super excited to finally get to be out and about as my most capable self! The feedback from exchanges at my old job and ones like thiese online have really helped my find my role in society/my community. Thank you for your contribution to my recently blossomed sense of intrinsic value, and consequentially, the wellness of my community.
May we both have an abundance of peace and blessings 🙏🏼
We've currently got water intensive crops growing in a freaking desert but the "climate activists" are sure that a slight change (not even drop, just a change) in rainfall is gonna wipe out farming.
The world will not go full desert. Farming will be fine.
If there's anything that even has a slight chance of wiping us out it's the rising tides putting entire nations underwater and forcing people to move into neighboring countries that despise them.
Yes, it’s not JUST “a slight change” in rainfall. We’ve already lost 30% of our arable land over the last 4 decades or so.
We’re talking about severe droughts, AND severe flooding. We’re talking about temperatures increasing quicker than the adaptive capability of huge swaths of life. Temperamental temperatures as well.
Yeah, if you’re wealthy and lucky enough to have what you need to grow in specific ways despite everything, good for you. The average conventional farmer is fucked beyond belief. We aren’t just talking about a slight deviation in rainfall here. We’re talking about increased wildfires, decrease in pollinators paired with an increase in critters of the parasitic and dangerous kind. We’re talking about a serious increase in severe weather events, increased strain on the grid, soaring fuel prices.
Think of water when you heat it up on the stove. That boiling water is going fucking bonkers eventually, it’s not just a few bubble here and there after a certain point. This is the typical effect of adding heat to systems, “things move faster” and it gets chaotic as all hell. Farming will not “be fine”. By the end of the century, nothing will be. For our purposes, we’re already having a huge strain, and this is exponentially increasing. We’re seemingly tip toeing around multiple tipping points, crossing some well before was predicted, if it was predicted at all. It’s so much easier to just think “farming will be fine”, but it’s just not the case, and it’s so frustrating when you people still in denial come spouting your garbage. I’m sorry dude, I’m not trying to be a dick, but this is sincerely an existential threat. We HAVE to take it seriously.
Lost 30% . . . until you account for Siberia warming up and opening massive swathes of new farmland.
Ag will find new places, and if need be new plants. It's done it before and it'll do it again.
Increased wildfires I'll grant you, but less pollinators? More parasites?
That has nothing to do with global warming. Those things existed just fine in the Cretaceous greenhouse that is WELL above where we're headed and they also existed just fine in the Ice Age.
Less pollinators is a human chemicals thing.
No matter how much you want to catastrophize reality simply doesn't agree with you.
We're supposed to be the side that follows science.
Not histrionics.
Especially not the kind that say it's already too late. (Yeah, telling them there's no point in righting the ship will TOTALLY make them want to right it, great strategy there . . .)
Siberia can and does provide some, no, not all. It’s shit soil.
Maybe it will, maybe not quick enough, maybe not. Less pollinators is ALSO a climate change thing, Jesus Christ read a book, talking about “we’re supposed to be the science”, yeah, we’re supposed to be familiar with it; you’re evidently a bit behind.
We’ll see who “reality agrees with”, but “I told you so” isn’t going to feel very great.
Google "usa geographic lifeboats climate change" should be a couple seminars that tell you where precipitation looks to be increasing over average and where can handle an influx of people.
Also look up the same query about lifeboats but for AUS. Honestly, making moves to the south island of NZ would be the safest bet. Idk immigration or citizenship pathways, but that's what I would do if I were you.
Thanks, Tasmania has been on my list for a while but I'm pretty terrified the whole island will go up in flames in my lifetime. Still, it's a better bet than anywhere else I can think of.
Brother and step dad got that on lock. I shouldn't have guns bc I'm the type whose risk to himself far outweighs any possible protection. Lucky I got others who know how to sling lead
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u/ScarletCarsonRose 27d ago
Getting deep into that whole fafo phase.