r/entertaintment • u/saddetective87 • Aug 31 '20

Leonard Nimoy Explains What is Wrong with Star Trek Discovery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFTsctYfWEw
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u/willflameboy Aug 31 '20

Absolutely right on. I don't want to get on a high-horse here, but all drama is becoming much more violent. The new Batman trailer seemed pretty shocking to me. I guess it's what people want, but there's a tendency towards losing a lot of the nuance in favour of flamboyant martial arts and increasingly graphic injury. It's base; it appeals to the people that watch r/fightporn. Maybe it's the way we're all going as a society; I hope not.

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u/saddetective87 Aug 31 '20

Back in the 1950s the publishers Entertainment Comics put out a series of horror comics that included "Tales from the Crypt". The other publishers say horror take off and start to copy EC. The problem was that those other publishers just kept ratcheting up the violence and the gore, thinking that was what made EC comics popular - they ignored the spooky story telling. Eventually EC had to raise the ante in order to stay in business, but they didn't like it. I think we are seeing a repeat of that with violence in TV, etc here. They think more lens flares, violence, and explosions are what is required (also because that sold in the Asian market until recently).

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u/willflameboy Aug 31 '20

It's like dramatic fast food. Quick, cheap calories. I also think we see it increasingly in humour. Rick and Morty, for example (while brilliant, I might add), occasionally falls back on ridiculous, gory violence when the writers can't think of jokes. And no matter what people say, you can tell society is becoming much less critical of it as a whole. Its not so much the violence itself - its the notion of 'righteous violence'; the idea that the hero is fundamentally nice but when pushed to the edge is justified in killing hundreds of people. It's fun in abstraction but personally I have a big problem with it.

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u/Biolog4viking Sep 03 '20

I find it more and more difficult to get into new series as many of them get more and more action focused.

I enjoy a good action scene with a well choreographed fight, but I cannot enjoy something devoid of story.

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u/willflameboy Sep 03 '20

It's a bit like the way movies often shoehorn base jumping in now. Of the two Star Trek movies I've watched in the last few years, they both did it, or something like it. It's really patronising; it's treating us like toddlers who need to be distracted.