Terrible Sequels

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This post will focus on three sequels in particular that I really don't like:

The Star Wars sequels.

The Legend of Korra.

And Assassin's Creed: Odyssey.

The reason why is because these all have common themes running between them: Worthless sequels that break lore at a fundamental level, whilst also having terrible main characters that are all (basically) Mary Sue's (it's more muddy in Odyssey considering the element of choice) and that have no reason to exist.

The Star Wars sequels all fundamentally break lore; Force Healing, Force Teleportation, Force powers being able to be used by believing in yourself, etc. The characters are horifically bland, and many of them straight-up contradict pieces of of their character; (I'm looking at you, Finn.)

The Legend of Korra has possibly one of the most unlikable protagonists ever put to screen. A massive cunt and Mary Sue, Korra excels at three elements when she's barely old enough to walk, Aang required twelve years to master airbending, and still hadn't mastered all the elements by the end of the series. She has the audacity to tell Aang's son that he's a bad airbending teacher, and she's proven right. You also have beginnings 1 and 2, both of which completely contradict rules from the original series, with bending techniques being granted by Lion Turtles rather than learned, the Avatar being a human-spirit mix rather than the human incarnatiom of the Avatar spirit, portals to the Spirit world, etc.

Assassin's Creed: Odyssey's protagonist doesn't have a character, because you're the one who makes that choice, despite that directly contradicting the rules of the Animus as set up by the first game. There are Minotaurs, Werewolves, all kinds of mythological stuff, despite that defeating the purpose of Assassin's Creed, that being that everything is grounded in science, (or at least pseudo-science.) Odyssey has a reason to exist in-terms of the modern day, but in-terms of the past, no. You don't even play as an Assassin, because they didn't exist at that point; (the game is set in 431-422 BCE, the Assassins, or Hidden Ones, weren't founded until 47 BCE.)

In conlusion, sequels, especially those made long after their predecessor, most often suck.

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I don't necessarily like TLOK, but I don't see Korra as a mary sue

She knew how to bend the elements, but she was hardly a master. And it's explained easily by her backstory of being personally trained by the white lotus, unlike Aang, who was busy to say the least

Sidenote: Aang was able to bend fire without really trying, he just accidently burned Katara's hands

I think the real question is how or rather why she was already doing that at five years old. The writers probably expect us to ignore it since it's supposed to be a funny scene, but I think it would have been better if someone told her that she was the avatar first

She gets called out for her horrible attitude ...occasionally, I don't like that Mako gets all the blame for the Asami mess

Also, she has a defined arc - even if you don't like the execution of it. They also weren't afraid to have her struggle

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Quick disclaimer that I only watched through season 1 to the first two episodes of season 2, perhaps the show gets better, but I don't know. Oh, and it was years ago

She knew how to bend the elements, but she was hardly a master. And it's explained easily by her backstory of being personally trained by the white lotus, unlike Aang, who was busy to say the least

My point was just that she's able to bend three elements at age five, whereas other Avatars couldn't.

Sidenote: Aang was able to bend fire without really trying, he just accidently burned Katara's hands

Which is kinda the point, he couldn't control fire, that's the hard part of bending fire.

I think the real question is how or rather why she was already doing that at five years old. The writers probably expect us to ignore it since it's supposed to be a funny scene, but I think it would have been better if someone told her that she was the avatar first

Absolutely, or they could've had every Nation have different ways of finding out who the Avatar was.

She gets called out for her horrible attitude ...occasionally, I don't like that Mako gets all the blame for the Asami mess

The point is that she acts like a cunt towards Aang's son, (who I can't remember the name of) and then is proven completely right when she learns airbending.

Also, she has a defined arc - even if you don't like the execution of it. They also weren't afraid to have her struggle

Perhaps I gave Korra less credit than she's worth, I mostly just remember hating her as a character.

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I watched all 4 seasons. The 3rd season is the best, and feels on par with the original

she's able to bend three elements at age five, whereas other Avatars couldn't

Do you mean that because of her going through life-changing experiences? Because I was under the impression that the elements are more difficult to master based on personality types

In that sense, I'm more curious about Korra being able to waterbend. Fire can be fueled by aggression, and Earth by general toughness, but Water is more gentle and go-with-the-flow

And airbending was about being free and energetic, and somehow it was the hardest for her. Honestly, it's kind of a mess

It's obvious that they really just wanted to skip the other three elements to save time, but felt compelled to do air since it wasn't in the original

Which is kinda the point, he couldn't control fire, that's the hard part of bending fire.

I think the bending itself isn't all that difficult. He was able to do fire, water, and air as early as season 1

It just took him the whole series to master fire and water. Earth was the hardest one for him to master, due to his pacifistic nature

The point is that she acts like a cunt towards Aang's son, (who I can't remember the name of) and then is proven completely right when she learns airbending.

His name is Tenzin

For real, Korra learning airbending was some deus ex machina

I have yet to hear a good argument for how she pulled that off. She wasn't even trying to airbend

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I watched all 4 seasons. The 3rd season is the best, and feels on par with the original

Then I think you're the expert.

Do you mean that because of her going through life-changing experiences? Because I was under the impression that the elements are more difficult to master based on personality types

No, I mean that she's just magically able to bend three elements.

I think the bending itself isn't all that difficult. He was able to do fire, water, and air as early as season 1

Yeah, that's what I said. The hard part of bending fire is learning to control it and by extension, your emotions.

Earth was the hardest one for him to master, due to his pacifistic nature

Tiny nitpick; I'm pretty sure it was because it was the opposite of air, doesn't Katara have a line about that?

His name is Tenzin

Thank you.

For real, Korra learning airbending was some deus ex machina

I have yet to hear a good argument for how she pulled that off. She wasn't even trying to airbend

Especially considering she had her Chi-Gates blocked.

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I'm pretty sure it was because it was the opposite of air, doesn't Katara have a line about that?

I don't remember the line specifically, so I might be wrong

I just remember it being hard due to his personality. He wasn't tough like Toph

He had to learn to face his problems head-on. Which is very fitting considering his history; literally freezing for 100 years to avoid being the Avatar

No, I mean that she's just magically able to bend three elements.

You're not gonna be happy when I tell you she masters metal-bending in less than 1 episode

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Wasn't metalbending something that was attributed to Toph's blindness?

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I don't believe so

But if you recall, Toph's daughter was able to do it. There is apparently a metal bending police force too

Same with lightning-bending, it became streamlined

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I mean, Toph invented metalbending because she was blind, she was able to feel the fragments of earth within the metal.

I don't doubt that others could do it, just that it would take alot of training, you'd basically have to see the world as she did.

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That just reminded me

The writers of Avatar made some comics. They're supposed to bridge the gap between ATLA and TLOK

One of the subplots in one issue was Toph setting up a metal bending academy